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Starboard Tack

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35. On the contrary.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

I'm fully aware that it has worked in other places. Some are places I have lived. The world does not end at the boundaries of the US. In many ways there is a lot more sanity beyond those boundaries. Gun control is an excellent example. Healthcare is another. The US is still in it's infancy when it comes to health, education and public safety.
Any kind of control, in a democracy, has to come with the consent of the people, as it does in most countries with sensible firearm policies. In the US, the old pioneer/libertarian way of thinking still dominates the sociopolitical process. Hell, many American consider liberal a dirty word, not to mention socialist or, God forbid, communist.
I just received a FB post from a family member who has 30+ years medical experience, claiming another family member was healed by a miracle from Jesus. Every one of the 60+ comments agreed with her. These are good people and a number of them, including her, are Dems. But if someone beats cancer in Appallachia, it's because of Jesus, not the chemo and radiation. Even the doctor said it was Jesus.
So, in a sense, I guess the world does end at the borders. Half of this country is ahead of the rest of the world and the other half is still living in the 17th century.

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Do you really not realize how disturbing your notion of "hidden criminal" is to non-fascists? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #2
My point is that the world is not divided neatly into the good guys and the bad guys. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #8
No Mikey glacierbay Nov 2012 #12
No, I think only about half of you are unfit. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #24
Do you have any proof of what you claim? glacierbay Nov 2012 #28
Isn't your point that gun owners "of the hidden criminal variety" "outnumber "true lawful" ones? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #18
If that's your point you're doing a horrible job putting it in to words 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #20
Yes, it is. There is no such thing as "Original Sin". cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #22
Spam. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #3
What kind... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #4
You're wrong abou that mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #9
Oh, we need a department of pre-crime to keep on eye on the undesirables that may step over the line DonP Nov 2012 #13
In fact, we do not! discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #21
Well shit Mikey glacierbay Nov 2012 #29
What an asinine thing to say, with no actual evidence to back it up. slackmaster Nov 2012 #5
The guy was reckless and stupid. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #6
Where did you get the idea that I want "all gun ownership should be illegal?" nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #10
Yours posts gave me that impression. Maybe I'm wrong. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #16
Have you been... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #23
Nope! I've been sailing Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #27
Sailing should be peaceful :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #30
60's, partially cloudy, chance of showers. Altogether, very pleasant and calm. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #31
Good to hear discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #32
http://mikeb302000.blogspot.it/2012/09/what-do-we-mean-by-proper-gun-control.html mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #25
OK. So your position is all about control Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #26
you are wrong. it has worked it has worked in some places, many places. CreekDog Nov 2012 #34
On the contrary. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #35
you just said gun control "didn't work, hasn't worked and never will" CreekDog Nov 2012 #36
Sorry about any confusion. I was referring to the US only Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #38
or, gejohnston Nov 2012 #40
It would be a huge improvement. But when we look at the bigger picture we can see a pattern. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #41
that still includes suicides, which are most "gun deaths" in the US gejohnston Nov 2012 #42
Very true. Out of control Cunsumerism and attachment to material wealth contributes big time. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #43
several reasons gejohnston Nov 2012 #44
"Why does South Korea have a suicide rate higher than even Japan? " Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #45
Then again, gejohnston Nov 2012 #37
If it was, He is highly selective. And yes, he got all kinds of treatment. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #39
Hi, Starboard. Straw Man Nov 2012 #15
So, are you advocating Nixon-era pre-emptive arrests? Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #7
More like general hidden dumbass...wonder how many of those there are in America ileus Nov 2012 #11
Wrong, Dumbasses display their prowess for all the world to admire. jeepnstein Nov 2012 #14
It "seems to" you that gun owners "of the hidden criminal variety" "outnumber "true lawful" ones? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #17
excuse me but, did you really just post a link to Fox News? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #19
Re: Somehow, deputies say, the gun went off Trunk Monkey Nov 2012 #33
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