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In reply to the discussion: Robbers starts shooting in restuarant, one is killed by CCW customer. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)26. That post is error-ridden and needs a thorough fisking, so I'll provide it:
But I've decided to leave my guns at home, realizing I'm more likely to hurt myself or innocent by-standers if I go vigilante.
There's your first error- this is an example of self-defense, not vigilantism.
Most criminals with guns don't want to kill. They want your money, or your iPhone, or your credit card, or that Glock they caught sight of under your sweater.
Most aren't trained. They're probably afraid of their own weapons (that's a surmise). They may be wired on meth. Which makes them extremely dangerous, more likely to do something really stupid. If they do kill someone, they've nothing more to lose by killing everyone. Why leave a witness?
Most aren't trained. They're probably afraid of their own weapons (that's a surmise). They may be wired on meth. Which makes them extremely dangerous, more likely to do something really stupid. If they do kill someone, they've nothing more to lose by killing everyone. Why leave a witness?
You are perfectly free to assume that "Most criminals with guns don't want to kill." I really do hope that assumption works out for you.
But why do you expect others to take that chance, especially after the criminals start shooting people without preamble (a fact you are reluctant to acknowledge)?
Did you seriously expect the CCW holder to assume that the guy who shot him wouldn't finish him off?
And that guy in Detroit, pulling on two armed bad guys, one holding a shotgun?
Not smart.
Yeah. He killed one bad guy. And got some pellets before the shotgun dude fled.
But it could have gone another way, had the man with the shotgun used it to blow the place and everyone inside into smithereens.
Not smart.
Yeah. He killed one bad guy. And got some pellets before the shotgun dude fled.
But it could have gone another way, had the man with the shotgun used it to blow the place and everyone inside into smithereens.
Same observation as above- Why are we (and the "guy in Detroit" supposed to rely on the tender mercies of people who have just demonstrated that they are
perfectly willing to shoot people?
And BTW, I rather doubt you are familiar with shotguns, given the tenor of your statements about them on this thread...
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Robbers starts shooting in restuarant, one is killed by CCW customer. [View all]
GreenStormCloud
Nov 2012
OP
Please don't get me wrong. I am not against responsible, reasonable gun ownership.
Swamp Lover
Nov 2012
#35
I gotta think if just one person there had had a can of beans none of this would have happened . . .
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#17
That post is error-ridden and needs a thorough fisking, so I'll provide it:
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#26