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Gun Control & RKBA
Showing Original Post only (View all)Please compare the Dem and GOP platforms re RKBA. Speculation welcome on how independent voters [View all]
might react to any differences they may perceive between the two parties relative to RKBA.
2012 Democratic National Platform
http://assets.dstatic.org/dnc-platform/2012-National-Platform.pdf
Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.
REPUBLICAN PLATFORM 2012
http://www.gop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012GOPPlatform.pdf
The Second Amendment:
Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms
We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We acknowledge, support, and defend the lawabiding citizens God-given right of self-defense. We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Courts decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a lawabiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners. We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the illconsidered Clinton gun ban. We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as Fast and Furious, conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administrations Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.
Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms
We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We acknowledge, support, and defend the lawabiding citizens God-given right of self-defense. We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Courts decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a lawabiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners. We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the illconsidered Clinton gun ban. We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as Fast and Furious, conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administrations Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.
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Please compare the Dem and GOP platforms re RKBA. Speculation welcome on how independent voters [View all]
jody
Sep 2012
OP
Agree, I'm drinking a martini, my favorite from Vietnam days. Wish you were here to join me. nt
jody
Sep 2012
#2
Makes sense. Bubba Carville said "It's the economy, stupid" and the more things change the more they
jody
Sep 2012
#4
I think the platform authors feel stuck with it, like the GOP and their zygote personhood plank
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#8
The new AWB bans both and plenty of others too, such as the M-1 carbine.
GreenStormCloud
Sep 2012
#47
That is exactly why this nonsense must be nipped in the bud every time it comes back
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#63
Being anti-gun will lose you PA. Guns are more popular than Jesus here. If you know how popular
rDigital
Sep 2012
#14
In post #17 there is no connection between the upper half of your post and your last paragraph.
ellisonz
Sep 2012
#23
Wow --- maybe we should just adopt all the Republican positions so they can't attack us?
ellisonz
Sep 2012
#27
Your interlocutor seems to have found your questions inconvenient...
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#87
Who are you to declare that a Democrat isn't allowed to disagree with one or two items...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#24
I'm sure you consulted with the people of Aurora on our failed gun control policy. n/t
ellisonz
Sep 2012
#38
The people of Aurora deserve exactly as much say on gun control policy as you and I do
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#62
What do you mean by " supposedly Democratic website"? Do you believe Democrats oppose the natural,
jody
Sep 2012
#34
You seem to connect NRA with pro-RKBA Democrat. NRA has less than 5 million mbrs and perhaps 80m or
jody
Sep 2012
#51
"To be quite honest, I think terms like "industrialized", "developed" etc. are out dated."
ellisonz
Sep 2012
#59
In 2008 Obama said "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear
jody
Sep 2012
#65
There is no legal definition in Federal law for "Assault Weapon". You claim Obama supports something
jody
Sep 2012
#75
The President has been silent on the issue. Nobody here is trying to obstruct him on anything.
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#64
Because the law does NOT say people aren't allowed to own such a weapon, we do have that right
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#80
The self-appointed zampolits do tend to end up contradicting themselves, don't they?
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#88