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In reply to the discussion: Hoyt banned from the gungeon. So much for the impartiality of the group host. [View all]Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)118. Maybe it is time to change the system
Maybe rather than having forum hosts we should have the MIRT team deal with it, give them the power to only ban from specific forums. What has been decided in the past is clearly not working and people have good reason to feel the host is biased against their position. I have nothing against krispos, he is a long time DUer and I respect him even though I have disagreed with him many times. I simply don't think he is capable of looking at this from an unbiased perspective, I don't think any of us are capable of being unbiased so no one person should have the power to decide who stays and who goes.
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Hoyt banned from the gungeon. So much for the impartiality of the group host. [View all]
DanTex
Sep 2012
OP
You mean, say, people who post links to Glenn Beck's website on a Democratic forum?
DanTex
Sep 2012
#3
Wait, I thought you guys always claimed that most DUers supported the 2nd amendment.
DanTex
Sep 2012
#9
Well I'll plead ignorance to that then. Unless it's labeled I just assume they're news sites nt
Reasonable_Argument
Sep 2012
#18
Agreed that he was a troll. Did you know that he is a Canadian who said that he is a former robber?
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#80
I think it belongs here. It is group business and precedent for such posts have been set in
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#29
You've accused fellow DUers of bigotry plenty of times, but I don't see you being banned.
DanTex
Sep 2012
#5
There's another example of the same anti-gun McCarthyism downthread:
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#135
Hoyt has served on 22 juries. He is still eligible to be on more, although he is banned from this
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#137
That, or krispos could go back to being the impartial host that he used to be...
DanTex
Sep 2012
#17
+1. Although I think Hoyt should be unblocked, Krispos has done an otherwise fine and
petronius
Sep 2012
#112
curious ... why do you think he should be Unblocked and What was the straw that broke the
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#143
I have no idea if there was a specific event that triggered the block - I don't recall
petronius
Sep 2012
#153
while I agree with you in theory, I do think that, for the most part, Krispos
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#155
you could be right. I know there was a time when I considered that very thing --
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#162
Well, I suppose you could try - but we wouldn't let you get away so easily...
petronius
Sep 2012
#184
I am not sure how that works. Nominations were held and krispos was selected. Now that he is the
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#96
indeed, we started out with that in mind - but, in the end, krispos was the only one selected
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#105
Well, there's that. If no one else wants the job, then just having one host
ZombieHorde
Sep 2012
#107
I agree with one change: One pro-NRA, one pro-sensible gun control, and one Admin.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#108
And I think they are very fair, all things considered. Therein lies the rub.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#187
I find them to be clarifying, and helpful for context of just what exactly it is we are talking
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#213
You are welcome to place me on ignore, if you think my factual labels of what we are talking about
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#214
Sorry, that is no insult. It is the truth and ellisonz is Proud of it.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#33
meh, I am OK with that. Let Hoyt now go forth and prove himself to be a good DUer and participate
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#140
since you are suggesting the Ignore Function may I ask if you use it?
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#148
I am confident that the decision was based solely on Hoyt's consistently bad behavior
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#23
You do realize that being in support of gun rights is not "right wing", correct?
MercutioATC
Sep 2012
#67
truly, you are being judicious in your commentary. If, in fact, Hoyt is NOT a troll
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#111
good enough. understand completely your hesitancy in further commenting.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#144
As evidenced by the first response to your utterly reasonable post (and thank for that)...
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#70
He may have owned a gun at one time. He was a Canadian who said he was a former robber. See #68.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#90
I can see you're deeply offended "you delicate flower, you" as you anti-gunnies say.
aikoaiko
Sep 2012
#56
There may be another difference as well. Hoyt is a Canadian who posted that he is a former robber.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#92
however polls in GD have overwhelmingly supported 2A. This was in DU2.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#75
a-ha! understood. I think most DUers just can not be bothered with it and
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#132
Did you know that he is a Canadian who posted that he is a former robber? See #68.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#74
His profile (before it was changed) indicated that he was a Canadian, and he admitted in an exchange
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#109
Well, Hoyt is the ONLY DU member I have ever felt the need to put on my ignore list.
Callisto32
Sep 2012
#60
"Fuck You" was an entirely appropriate response to much of Hoyt's vile drivel.
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#87
It should be known that Hoyt is a Canadian who, among other things, posted that he
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#68
Do you have a link to the Canadian confession? And the non-citien admission?
Common Sense Party
Sep 2012
#81
Good questions. But Hoyt is not the only non-American bashing our Bill of Rights.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#98
At some point, he changed his profile to remove the information that he was a Canadian.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#104
Looks like this is going to be almost as popular as the "The Witch is Dead" celebration.
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#93
I don't think anybody else was really interested in taking it on. Seems like we tried
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#113
sounds like something that needs to be taken up with the Admin. No One here has the
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#127
Which is why I said in my original post that the admins need to address this
Bjorn Against
Sep 2012
#133
and what I am trying to say is that You need to contact the Admin since you feel this way
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#134
I actually think it makes a certain amount of sense in a pro-NRA/GOP agenda forum, which this
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#114
Its really very simply, whether you are for or against RKBA, just don't be an asswipe.
aikoaiko
Sep 2012
#122
An important step towards not being an asswipe- Don't act like *this* guy:
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#138
So, because genuine progressives don't want NRA/GOP talking points spewed on our discussion
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#151
Yada, yada, yada - more meaningless noise. There is nothing "progressive" about the NRA/GOP
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#165
you approved of Hoyt's posting style? only if you want to employ those same tactics.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#128
I'll ask you the same question asked of DanTex: Point out the "pro-NRA/GOP agenda posters".
friendly_iconoclast
Sep 2012
#130
Let's double-down, so to speak. Not interested in any "wager," but I'll tell you what:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#146
He already has, twice, but regardless: are you voting for President Obama or not?
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#164
good lord. I fucking despise Rmoney and Lyin Ryan. there is NO way in HEll I would NOT
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#166
So, you are voting to re-elect President Obama - great! Glad to hear it.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#168
I highly don't doubt it. But you're right: we will see. And I'm pretty sure I "know"
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#173
do you see your little ole brain when you roll your eyes to back of your head like that?
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#185
playground faces deserve playground taunts. you dish it out; you better be ready to take it.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#193
Except, I'm not complaining about it: I'm laughing at you, not with you. When you employ playground
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#195
haha. we all know where you pulled that data from. funny stuff, indeed.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#198
It is, indeed, a laughable tour-de-force you're putting on here. By all means, continue. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#200
Are you supporting your President even though he has abandoned federal gun legislation?
aikoaiko
Sep 2012
#222
You don't have the slightest clue whether the decision was "proper" or not: none of us do,
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#152
Yep - I have seen some of those when I used to hang out in the Gungeon more often.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#156
I think the Admin have studied the Constitution and recognize that this is a rural vs.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#157
Except, my theory actually makes sense: this is not a "rural vs. metropolitan topic," it is
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#167
retreat and flank, dude. Facts are with me. AND until the ADMIN see fit to comment
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#176
Yeah, 'cuz a poll in the Gungeon with about a couple dozen participants is just SO definitive,
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#205
Here's the results of a poll showing that DUers agree that RKBA is a progressive value.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#161
Wow...an internet poll, posted in the Gungeon, in which a grand total of 86 people participated!
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#170
gun polls are no longer allowed in GD on DU3. However on DU2 where they were allowed
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#172
Changing the subject, per usual. This was about the poll posted, not some phantom on "DU2".
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#174
Translation: "this being on the losing side of an argument really bites." Gotcha. n/t.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#181
Nope, it's spot on. What's not working is your working understanding of what it means
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#189
Nice day. Dude. I said Nice Day. like I said. work on your translator. It is irony impaired.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#192
Same thing, though I updated the precise quote. Now you're just playing semantics games.
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#194
no. Have a Nice Day has a very precise meaning. You need to try and keep up.
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#196
Yes: it is one of many forms in the English language of saying "goodbye." But we can go on talking
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#197
please, dude, your ignorance about DU is showing. you have no clue as to what I am on about. but,
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#201
Translation: "this being on the losing side of an argument and being reduced to making a fool
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#204
One Last Time, I answered your questions respectfully and in a timely fashion. You chose to come
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2012
#220
Now that I've got time to deal with this in detail, we'll take a closer look at your "last" post:
apocalypsehow
Sep 2012
#228
So the results of a democratic vote is wrong? What about Bill Clinton's analysis
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2012
#179