Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: The Case for Gun Control - more facts about the Second Amendment [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)certainly not strict laws to include bans. One only needs to look at our cities and territories that have strict gun laws, stricter than most of Europe, to see that. Come to think of it, just look at any country that has a higher murder rate than the US. The UK doesn't have a lower murder rate because of their strict laws, they had about the same rate when they (and the rest of Europe) had unregulated concealed carry. It was not customary, but legal. Most of our murders are gang related, concentrated in a few parts in a few cities. We have a gang problem. Mexico and Jamaica have gang problems (with gun laws stricter than UK and murder rates that make us look like Japan and Palau).
If gun laws mattered, why does El Paso have a murder rate of 0.8 while Chicago is well.......... Chicago or neighboring Cuidad Juarez. Come to think of it, El Paso is safer than many Canadian cities such as Vancouver, Toronto, and of course their murder Capitol, Thunder Bay. As much as "antis" like to use Canada as an example, let's use Canada some more. Alberta's murder rate is about same as Wyoming's and Montana's. Minnesota's is slightly lower than Saskatchewan's. If Flint and Detroit were to secede from Michigan, the state's murder rate would be the same as Manitoba's. Of course, that is all murders regardless of weapon. Over half of our murders include firearms, only one third of Canada's is.
Me being armed or not in Florida or Wyoming does not affect DC's or Chicago's problem. Like I said, it is a gang problem. Those cities and territories have a number of complex and deep rooted problems that their politicians either can't or don't want to deal with. Some of it is larger than the local area and requires federal assistance, like infrastructure. In Chicago's case, the politicians are in bed with the drug gangs just like they were with the booze gangs, so it is easier for some DINO to rant about "rednecks in Montana and the NRA" while busting public sector unions and laying off cops.