Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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42. Easy

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:50 PM

Jul 2012

The only solution and the one which will be implemented eventually.
A total ban on certain types of weapons and equipment in public places. Not control, BAN! Break it and the consequences will break you.

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Is it time for a red flag number when it comes to ammunition? [View all] Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 OP

you mean semi automatic gejohnston Jul 2012 #1

Chilling effects. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #72

Not sure how that could be done objectively or practically ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #2

Maybe we need a better dispatch center to keep track of the bulk sales? Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #3

Bulk sales IMO would start at 5000 or 10,000 rounds of the same kind ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #14

I wish Storage Wars would air the number of times they opened one of those Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #18

"I know they have to turn in everything to the police if they find them" rl6214 Jul 2012 #36

That is a state by state thing ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #44

Do tell. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #48

Not too much to tell ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #67

No kidding. HALO141 Jul 2012 #113

"People watching infrastructure" would be better rrneck Jul 2012 #4

Is there a difference between someone on "Hoarders" and someone who stockpiles ammo? LonePirate Jul 2012 #5

Such a major non sequitur I don't even know where to begin. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #8

I'll take that as a no then. LonePirate Jul 2012 #11

Either that or they got a very good deal ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #15

You might have a percentage of gun owners that fall in the range of hoarders Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #16

That depends on your definition of "stockpiling". NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #9

On the contrary, we're not out to get you. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #12

Good luck with that around here. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #24

Oh come on now. I want to find civilized solutions... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #31

Let the group know when you actually come up with a solution. Clames Jul 2012 #33

Taking into account the law of unintended consequences n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #35

Easy Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #42

Laughable. Clames Jul 2012 #49

Make sure you keep that post. Next time someone says "Nobody wants to ban guns" shadowrider Jul 2012 #50

That's what Print Screen is for ;) n/t Clames Jul 2012 #59

Saw a post in GD about banning all semi-automatics Kaleva Jul 2012 #66

Only one? Those comments are flowing like the River Nile. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #71

I don't want to ban guns. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #83

That would take away the tools of legitimate self-defense... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #70

So what kinds of weapons and equipment are we talking about? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #103

need more thinking people gejohnston Jul 2012 #43

There are many thinking people here, including yourself. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #106

I read some of the ones in GD gejohnston Jul 2012 #107

exhibit number one gejohnston Jul 2012 #108

If I have to choose between fighting a big fight or years of incrementalism, I'll take the big fight Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #102

I can promise you that ammuntion and magazine sales are going to go up Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #51

More the reason we apply this red flag rule now and get over the hump Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #73

What does this accomplish? Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #92

I don't think that public safety and personal freedom are conflicting interests. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #68

I do forsee the day when these things will be handled without our knowledge. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #74

what do you mean "our own"? gejohnston Jul 2012 #75

He is a byproduct of your loose rules. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #76

gun store owners do gejohnston Jul 2012 #77

Except, it looks like we have an accomplice in the mix. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #79

most likely he did have an accomplice gejohnston Jul 2012 #82

This is not the fault of gun owners not accessibility of firearms. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #99

The current airport security procedures aren't acceptable either. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #78

I think the fatality numbers are the issue. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #80

No good legislative change has been proposed. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #84

When 9/11 occurred, Republicans were the first to support the Patriot Act, which flagellated Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #87

Concede to what? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #88

Red flagging large ammo purchases. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #89

How would you describe a "large ammo purchace"? oneshooter Jul 2012 #90

My concern... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #96

Flagging large ammo purchases won't accomplish much. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #105

Semi-automatics can now shoot 70 people Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #94

The shooters 100 round drum also jammed n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #95

But the numbers are in decline. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #104

I go almost everywhere without fear of being shot. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #98

Except... Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #101

I buy... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #20

Hoarders often store trash 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #86

I don't approve of legislation that further reduces gun/ammo buyers' privacy. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #6

I'm willing to field ideas. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #7

I think there are better ideas already out there. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #10

Those are very valid points. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #13

I disagree. His bulk ammo purchase was a symptom and not the problem. shadowrider Jul 2012 #22

The problem is that 70 people were shot in a theater. Not guns, not mental health, not his mother. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #39

This theater WAS AND IS a gun free zone. The shooter must not have seen the sign. shadowrider Jul 2012 #40

Gun free zones are not gun free if there is no enforcement. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #41

So what is your plan for enforcing no gun zones? n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #47

How are they currently enforced? The real ones? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #111

chances when caught, gejohnston Jul 2012 #112

This post makes me feel like banging my head against a wall. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #69

Take your time. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #114

What kind of enforcement? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #115

Enter an established gun free zone (urban area eg.) with a gun, go to jail for a long time. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #116

I'm not talking about hunting down gangbangers in the streets. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #117

How about preventing crimes like this or at least a faster response. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #118

And he finally gets it. Clames Jul 2012 #109

All public gathering places declared gun-free zones (no exceptions). Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #53

The problem is that such laws require some subjective definition of what is considered a bulk buy. Clames Jul 2012 #34

The amount of ammo he purchased has not bearing on what happened rl6214 Jul 2012 #38

Thanks alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #100

I don't think this would work jleavesl Jul 2012 #17

You mean, he might have resorted to making bombs, rather than to go out on a shooting rampage. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #19

Then those should have gotten him caught jleavesl Jul 2012 #21

We're not sure at this point what kind of explosives they are. C4 would have gotten shadowrider Jul 2012 #25

Fertilizer in bulk. Nothing would stop him from legally buying enough in small quantities shadowrider Jul 2012 #23

Your powder purchases could be restricted. The points could be restricted. upaloopa Jul 2012 #28

Just curious CokeMachine Jul 2012 #55

I buy buy black powder in bulk, generally 25lbs at a time. oneshooter Jul 2012 #57

Why don't we restrict the number of rounds you can buy in a certain time frame? upaloopa Jul 2012 #26

Did you forget about target practice? Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #29

If you go to the gun range, the range can provide the rounds. upaloopa Jul 2012 #30

Ok, so the range provides the rounds. How long before the government wants shadowrider Jul 2012 #37

Throwing the BS card on you here ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #45

M-14, M-16, M-60 Machine gun, m-79 gernade launcher,1911 Colt 45 automatic, M-50 machine gun upaloopa Jul 2012 #63

Qualified Expert on some of those, have the bars to prove it ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #91

YOU'RE a fool. If you're going to say it, at least spell correctly, ok? shadowrider Jul 2012 #93

Just pointing out obvious mistakes that make your post questionable ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #97

Do you realize how many types of ammo exist? Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #52

Assuming that you were shooting at a target similar to this .... spin Jul 2012 #58

Try a 20" bullseye at 600yds,20 shots, with no scope. Then get back to bragging. oneshooter Jul 2012 #62

How is that reasonable? Clames Jul 2012 #60

No. bluedigger Jul 2012 #27

Smokeless powder rounds do not explode ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #46

Muzzle loading black powder Kentucky long rifles, used only for hunting, of course, are the only bluedigger Jul 2012 #54

" all the old unsafe stuff has been recalled." oneshooter Jul 2012 #56

8mm Lebel ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #65

Had a real nice Cavalry carbine. sold it to a collector for a lot more than I paid for it. oneshooter Jul 2012 #81

I'd rather tax money support mental illness programs and initiatives to thwart mass killings. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #32

There is very little regulation in buying the materials needed for a fertilizer bomb Kaleva Jul 2012 #61

He purchased a semi-automatic 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #85

Practically speaking, someone can't carry/use more than a few hundred at a time... benEzra Jul 2012 #110