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In reply to the discussion: At least 10 dead and 30 to 40 wounded [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)58. If he wanted to
a lot of mass murders have been carried out without guns. The worst school massacre to date was done with a bomb planted by the principal. Japan and South Korea has had higher death tolls with knives. Then there was the German guy with a homemade flame thrower. On to your minor points:
If every gun was rounded up and drugs were legalized there wouldn't be any demand by dope dealers for guns because there wouldn't be an dope dealers.
Something does need to be done to get those guns off the street.
Guns are not prohibited but drugs are. So guns are easily acquired because the USA is the world's number one source of guns and all other weaponry because of the gun manufacturers lobby and the NRA lobby. Your argument might make sense if not for the fact that it's senseless based on the current laws and insane mindset in this country.
Thhere you hit the nail on the head, but you spaced out the main point. The fault does not lie with the US or Canadian gun culture, it falls on the shoulders of the drug culture that funds and fuels the violence.
Something does need to be done to get those guns off the street.
Guns are not prohibited but drugs are. So guns are easily acquired because the USA is the world's number one source of guns and all other weaponry because of the gun manufacturers lobby and the NRA lobby. Your argument might make sense if not for the fact that it's senseless based on the current laws and insane mindset in this country.
You need to travel abroad more. No, we are not the number one source for guns. So far we have what is described as an AK clone, not made in the US. JL had a Glock, not made in the US. Some guy in Canada had a Beretta Storm, not made in the US. Ft Hood shooter used guns made in Europe as well. SYG does not legalize murder (actually an oxymoron). I'm willing to bet most places have similar self defense laws.
This is a sick, sick country and guns are just one of the symptoms. You don't make it easy for people to acquire guns in a nation that's being led toward terminal insanity by politicians who are so threatened by the NRA that they refuse to take action while these massacres and other gun related events just keep adding up to one simple conclusion -- we need gun control more than we need drug prohibition and trying to relate the two the way you just did is putting the cart before the horse.
We have had gun control way before drug prohibition. The NRA does not threaten politicians anymore than the AARP or EDF does. Yes the NRA can mobilize a grass roots machine much larger than the rest of those combined. That's democracy.
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Ordering rights by importance is like adolescents deciding which primary color is prettier.
SkatmanRoth
Jul 2012
#265
I have no idea. Did someone say "gun nuts always rush to carry out massacres"?
Starboard Tack
Jul 2012
#217
"over the rights of people to be safe from lunatics with easy access to guns. "
HALO141
Jul 2012
#134
"Then explain to me how this fucking nut in Colorado could have killed all those people..."
HALO141
Jul 2012
#128
The talibanners can't wait for tragedies like this. Much easier to push their
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#188
I'll stop using the word "anti" as soon as they quit calling me a gun nut, deal? n/t
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#249
Look at my tagline. Hmmm, seems to me a recent gun free zone was a target rich
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#257
Movie theaters aren't neccessarily gun free. I carry my concealed handgun to movies regularly.
rl6214
Jul 2012
#170
Shootings might be even less if we crack down on guns. This guy wouldn't have shot up this theatre
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#42
Holy crap. Does it fire heat seeking bullets and have a shoulder thing that goes up? n/t
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#191
This could also be the act of a radical anti gun organization. Even UN sponsored.
Remmah2
Jul 2012
#24
Of course they probably knew he was armed. They've probably been introducing him to gun culture
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#45
So far the only ones taking advantage here are you anti's and restrictionists.
permatex
Jul 2012
#87
The blood isn't even dry and already people are making political hay out of this
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#122