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In reply to the discussion: UPDATE 2: Texas E-Z-Trip (C-store) Shooting of Violent Drunk [View all]GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)118. It is immoral for someone to assault me. It is moral for me to defend myself.
A specific level of damage isn't needed before one can defend themselves, however a sufficient disparity of force is needed. The video hasn't been posted to the web yet, nor do I know if it will.
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And I'm sure you'll be showing us the proof that he was a racist looking to shoot a black man,
permatex
Jul 2012
#14
"Guns and racism are closely linked." <--------- You mean "facts" like that? The kind that can't be
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2012
#21
listen with a closed mind -- that's Our Hoyt. I don't think he could get past
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2012
#44
Sounds like something Zimmerman would say. Of course, you just assume shooting him was only option.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#64
I know, you are probably one of those who'll shoot unarmed person over property, etc.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#69
Ask him. He is supporting a man with a gun who shot an UNARMED drunk when other options available.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#79
Not machismo, just too old to take an ass whipping and not ready to die yet. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#104
Actually it does -- another fucker with a gun who shot an UNARMED black man when plenty of options
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#75
I was there as much as you. Besides, I can read the facts released so far. Pretty obvious to me.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#106
White guy with a gun in Texas, shot a UNARMED drunk Black man and is claiming self-defense and that
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#109
Maybe we'll get some photos of how badly the gun toter was hurt. My guess is, it will be even less
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#111
It is immoral for someone to assault me. It is moral for me to defend myself.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#118
I don't think our Texas toter was in danger of decomposing, or having much more than a bloody nose.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#121
Bullshit. Unmitigated mendacity. You made numerous claims as facts, not as opinion.
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#126
She was quite insightful if that were her conclusions, although I think "all" might be a little high
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#46
To you. To me, he made an illegal gun deal while attending a friggin Ayran Nation meeting.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#47
Weaver hid behind his wife and kids, when he should have walked out (without lethal weapons).
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#65
No, his trafficking in illegal guns and refusal to give himself up is what caused shooting.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#70
"Entrapped?" BS, he thought he was dealing with another worthless racist like himself. He thought
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#78
The jury ruled on the legality of the charges brought by inept prosectutors, not the morality of
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#84
You can't make up the fact that Weaver is/was a racist neo-Nazi, ready to contribute to the Ayran
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#107
No, it's not OK. Weaver should have thought about that before agreeing to aid Ayran Nation in thier
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#73
They didn't just show up one day, Weaver knew for some time they were there to arrest his gun
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#83
While he may have been "responsible for all that happened to HIM", the FBI is responsible for all
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2012
#128
It was koresch's fault. He had 51 days to surrender, but chose to hide behind his flock.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#143
In the 51 days koresch could have given up, he chose to remain with his guns and underaged teenagers
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#148
Why would they pick up a gun nut in town where innocents are around? That would be crazy/stupid.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#151
No one deserved to die. But, blame it on weaver's illegal and immoral activities.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#138
What was bush/cheney convicted of? How about Hitler, Stalin, OJ, Jack the Ripper, Blake, Anthony.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#152
What do they have to do with weaver? They are immoral people who might not have been convicted.
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#156
I doubt it was even alerted. If it was, I wish someone would share the results.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2012
#88