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In reply to the discussion: Amid ATF Fast And Furious Scandal, House Democrats Point To Weak Gun Laws [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)55. For the 50th time...
The gun trafficking statute is not about international trafficking. It is about trafficking guns to people in the US who are not allowed by law to possess a firearm, as in:
IN GENERAL.It shall be unlawful for any per-
3 son, regardless of whether anything of value is exchanged,
4 to receive, or to transfer or otherwise dispose of to 1 or
5 more individuals, 2 or more firearms that have been
6 shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
7 knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such
8 conduct will result in the disposing of 1 or more such fire-
9 arms to an individual
10 (1) whose possession or receipt of the firearm
11 would be unlawful; or
12 (2) who intends to or will use, carry, possess,
13 or dispose of the firearm unlawfully.
3 son, regardless of whether anything of value is exchanged,
4 to receive, or to transfer or otherwise dispose of to 1 or
5 more individuals, 2 or more firearms that have been
6 shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce,
7 knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such
8 conduct will result in the disposing of 1 or more such fire-
9 arms to an individual
10 (1) whose possession or receipt of the firearm
11 would be unlawful; or
12 (2) who intends to or will use, carry, possess,
13 or dispose of the firearm unlawfully.
It's funny. Sometimes I wonder if gun loons are just plain dumber than regular people. Then I read some gungeon posts. After that I don't wonder any more.
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Amid ATF Fast And Furious Scandal, House Democrats Point To Weak Gun Laws [View all]
SecularMotion
Jun 2012
OP
Obviously, the gun laws were too weak to prevent the ATF from doing what it did.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2012
#8
How in the world wouldn't ITAR cover people driving guns into mexico?
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jun 2012
#15
If an attorney (or AG) can't prosocute expressly illegal behaviour under clearly worded laws...
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jun 2012
#37
I understand your argument, "The old laws don't or aren't working"...
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jun 2012
#39
The 1968 GCA expressly forbids nonlicensed civilians from exporting/importing firearms
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jun 2012
#44
In other words, you were wrong: there is no law explicitly against gun trafficking.
DanTex
Jun 2012
#46
Also, just to be clear, I don't find that proposed legislation to be lacking or bad.
OneTenthofOnePercent
Jun 2012
#45
Only because you are in favor of one right-wing industry lobby and not the other.
DanTex
Jun 2012
#51
The law makes it damned difficult to even legally export to a "friendly" country.
oneshooter
Jun 2012
#48