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In reply to the discussion: New Yorker magazine has an interesting article about history of 2nd amendment, NRA and gun control [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)84. excellent article
Page 6 has this:
On Election Day in 1970, Keene was at the White House. Joseph Tydings, a Democratic senator from Maryland who had introduced a Firearms Registration and Licensing Act, was running for reëlection. The returns were coming in, and someone said, Whats going on in Maryland? Keene recalled. And someone answered, I can tell you this: everywhere except Baltimore, there are long lines of pickup trucks at the polls. Hes going down over gun control.
The late 60s was when "gun rights" were invented. In response to civil rights.
What else happened in Maryland was Spiro T. Agnew. A disorganized Democratic Party nominated the racist gun militant George P. Mahoney for governor, and liberals deserted the party in droves and elected Agnew. And we all know where that got you.
http://abacus.bates.edu/Library/aboutladd/departments/special/ajcr/1970/Tydings.shtml
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD SENATE
July 9, 1970
Page 23393
SENATOR TYDINGS AND GUN CONTROL
Mr. MUSKIE: Mr. President, in the June 27 issue of the New Republic, Alex Campbell has written a perceptive article about the political situation in which the Senator from Maryland (Mr. TYDINGS) presently finds himself being the object of attack from both the left and right. I think this short piece clearly demonstrates what happens to a public figure when he takes on the tough issues without ducking. I ask unanimous consent that the article be printed in the RECORD.
...
July 9, 1970
Page 23393
SENATOR TYDINGS AND GUN CONTROL
Mr. MUSKIE: Mr. President, in the June 27 issue of the New Republic, Alex Campbell has written a perceptive article about the political situation in which the Senator from Maryland (Mr. TYDINGS) presently finds himself being the object of attack from both the left and right. I think this short piece clearly demonstrates what happens to a public figure when he takes on the tough issues without ducking. I ask unanimous consent that the article be printed in the RECORD.
...
TYDINGS OF NO JOY
And, because Tydings is also pushing for saner gun laws, lavish displays of posters and bumper stickers paid for by you-know-who tell Maryland voters, "If Tydings wins, you lose."
What?
Their guns; therefore, they seem to fear, their manhood. Both fears are groundless; nevertheless Tydings, a self-confessed liberal, is now being depicted as a castrator as well. Tydings is Maryland's senior senator and faces in September a primary fight with George P. Mahoney, a Democrat who is an eight-times loser and is so far from being a liberal that in 1966 Spiro T. Agnew won the governorship from him largely by appearing to be by contrast a moderate.
Mahoney is counting confidently on gun lobby backing. Should Mahoney lose a ninth time, the gun lobby doubtless will back Republican J. Glenn Beall Jr. against Tydings in November.
Unregistered guns killed two of Tydings close friends, John and Robert F. Kennedy. The 1968 Gun Control Act is a flop; only three states require gun licenses and in 35 states, lunatics may legally own guns. Tydings wants guns registered and licensed. His assurances to hunters that this will not interfere with sport and to collectors of antique guns that these won't count, have failed to abate the trumped-up hysteria against Tydings' modest proposals; so have Tydings' terrible statistics 99,000 armed robberies annually, more than doubled since 1964, and 9,000, Americans shot to death each year.
... The senator has written a book, Born to Starve, to expose his views on population control. He says that 5.4 million American women who are poor don't want large families and do want family planning assistance, but fewer than 800,000 get it. The Nixon Administration has adopted elimination of unwanted births as a national goal, but Tydings is urging larger financial provision, $984,000 over five years. His less rational accusers blow up over his family planning stand. Some blacks say he's a rich white who aims to sterilize the black poor; others profess shock at his proposal to leave abortion "to individual conscience." If he politically survives the attacks generated by what seems to be everyone else's castration syndrome, Tydings may look good in 1972, when he will be only 44. Many of his liberal ideas match with those of Senator McGovern and of Senator Ted Kennedy. Tydings would also fit a Muskie ticket, or a Hughes ticket. But sometimes, reading his hate mail, Tydings becomes a bit glum. The storm that is being worked up against him in his state is contrived by the gun lobby in part because he is a liberal, and people who fear and hate liberal views readily believe that Tydings is plotting to disarm them so as to leave them helpless prey of vaguely glimpsed powers of evil. But, meanwhile, Tydings' efforts to protect poor and black people from the criminals who prey on them are rudely rebuffed.
And, because Tydings is also pushing for saner gun laws, lavish displays of posters and bumper stickers paid for by you-know-who tell Maryland voters, "If Tydings wins, you lose."
What?
Their guns; therefore, they seem to fear, their manhood. Both fears are groundless; nevertheless Tydings, a self-confessed liberal, is now being depicted as a castrator as well. Tydings is Maryland's senior senator and faces in September a primary fight with George P. Mahoney, a Democrat who is an eight-times loser and is so far from being a liberal that in 1966 Spiro T. Agnew won the governorship from him largely by appearing to be by contrast a moderate.
Mahoney is counting confidently on gun lobby backing. Should Mahoney lose a ninth time, the gun lobby doubtless will back Republican J. Glenn Beall Jr. against Tydings in November.
Unregistered guns killed two of Tydings close friends, John and Robert F. Kennedy. The 1968 Gun Control Act is a flop; only three states require gun licenses and in 35 states, lunatics may legally own guns. Tydings wants guns registered and licensed. His assurances to hunters that this will not interfere with sport and to collectors of antique guns that these won't count, have failed to abate the trumped-up hysteria against Tydings' modest proposals; so have Tydings' terrible statistics 99,000 armed robberies annually, more than doubled since 1964, and 9,000, Americans shot to death each year.
... The senator has written a book, Born to Starve, to expose his views on population control. He says that 5.4 million American women who are poor don't want large families and do want family planning assistance, but fewer than 800,000 get it. The Nixon Administration has adopted elimination of unwanted births as a national goal, but Tydings is urging larger financial provision, $984,000 over five years. His less rational accusers blow up over his family planning stand. Some blacks say he's a rich white who aims to sterilize the black poor; others profess shock at his proposal to leave abortion "to individual conscience." If he politically survives the attacks generated by what seems to be everyone else's castration syndrome, Tydings may look good in 1972, when he will be only 44. Many of his liberal ideas match with those of Senator McGovern and of Senator Ted Kennedy. Tydings would also fit a Muskie ticket, or a Hughes ticket. But sometimes, reading his hate mail, Tydings becomes a bit glum. The storm that is being worked up against him in his state is contrived by the gun lobby in part because he is a liberal, and people who fear and hate liberal views readily believe that Tydings is plotting to disarm them so as to leave them helpless prey of vaguely glimpsed powers of evil. But, meanwhile, Tydings' efforts to protect poor and black people from the criminals who prey on them are rudely rebuffed.
Those were the days.
Although ... plus ça change ...
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New Yorker magazine has an interesting article about history of 2nd amendment, NRA and gun control [View all]
rgbecker
Apr 2012
OP
Also detaining people he suspects of carrying a firearm so he can check their papers
AH1Apache
Apr 2012
#32
Interesting part about the NRA paying "scholars" to publish 2nd amendment papers. n-t
Logical
Apr 2012
#6
Yep. It's corruption and twisted conservatives playing facist games to preserve corp. power.
The Wielding Truth
Apr 2012
#23
Yes, many of the gun culture here are just cyber Zimmermans. In reality, some may be too.
Hoyt
Apr 2012
#46
Hey, you guys would have considered Zimmerman a model gun toter right until he shot unarmed kid.
Hoyt
Apr 2012
#53
Zimmerman, intimidation, Loughner, guns everywhere, etc. -- that's what the gun culture has wrought.
Hoyt
Apr 2012
#167
Semi-automatic assault weapons were not banned, not the possession, not the transfer
rl6214
Apr 2012
#117
NO, it was called the "assault weapons ban" by the anti-gun zealots that wrote it
rl6214
Apr 2012
#146
I wonder how people like you ever challenge your minds? I read rightwing stuff all the...
Logical
Apr 2012
#48
"Some people, like you, don't want your set beliefs challenged I guess."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Apr 2012
#49
Seems like it was the DC group that didn't want to see the HQ moved to Colorado.
rgbecker
Apr 2012
#106
Why give up so early unless it just is painful for you to read long articles? How can you base....
Logical
Apr 2012
#27
Your opinion and hence by your own argument just as valid as the author's.
GoneOffShore
Apr 2012
#144
After reading this article, I had to do a little research about some of the names.
rgbecker
Apr 2012
#42
So you are perfectly happy feeling that you "must carry" in order to feel protected?
GoneOffShore
Apr 2012
#51
That guy is so dumb about guns that he thinks Rimfire is a brand of gun.
GreenStormCloud
Apr 2012
#91
If your post gets hidden, I'm going to take that phrase "(subject-X) nuts" to some other forums....
PavePusher
Apr 2012
#173
Jury voted 6-0 to hide it. Let us know how that works out for you, re: "(subject-x) nuts" :)
Electric Monk
Apr 2012
#174