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sylvi

(813 posts)
105. "so why identify with him? "
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:15 PM
Apr 2012

When you enter these discussions accusing the skeptics of identifying with George Zimmerman, or in the words of some posters, "defending" or being an "apologist" for him, you are insulting them. The implication being, "George Zimmerman is a racist. Therefore, if you are not reflexively sure of his guilt and agree with everything I say, you must be a racist, too."

This kind of black/white, with us/against us binary thinking is baffling from certain members within a group who in any other situation would consider themselves objective, rational and reality-based. It's like on certain subjects a switch gets flipped and reason just goes out the window. I have a difficult time believing intelligence just comes and goes like that in an individual, so the only answer I'm left with is that it's just a dishonest and cowardly tactic to silence others, which further indicates there is an agenda in play that does not lend itself well to the truth.

First things first, who here is an apologist for G. Zimmerman? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #1
LOL! The Gungeon Memory Hole strikes again jpak Apr 2012 #38
What the are you on about now? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #41
Pssssst. He's gotta run to a dictionary to find out what wisdom means, based on his posts shadowrider Apr 2012 #43
That some funny shit there. AH1Apache Apr 2012 #46
Yes that was truly hilarious! What piercing humor! DanTex Apr 2012 #49
You obviously have no fucking clue do you? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #55
No clue about what? DanTex Apr 2012 #76
And Jpak launches utterly unfunny attacks on pro-gun people all the time. shadowrider Apr 2012 #78
I'm not mad. I was just having a laugh. DanTex Apr 2012 #83
Your right and I apologize AH1Apache Apr 2012 #80
"I haven't seen anyone making excuses for Zimmerman" ellisonz Apr 2012 #112
Trayvon also had the right to defend himself...thus the supposed injuries to Z. Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #2
this is not an example of vigilaneism gejohnston Apr 2012 #3
Of course it's vigilanteism. DanTex Apr 2012 #8
Wrong, but thanks for playing shadowrider Apr 2012 #13
Did you read your own definition? DanTex Apr 2012 #18
Dang, your copy button didn't get the entire thing there Dan shadowrider Apr 2012 #22
Do you not understand what the word "as" means? DanTex Apr 2012 #23
I won't argue what the meaning of "as" is. Won't do it shadowrider Apr 2012 #27
OK, I'll explain. DanTex Apr 2012 #28
*Yawn* - For the third time, what crime was Zimmerman avenging? shadowrider Apr 2012 #31
Really, shadowrider? You really don't get it? DanTex Apr 2012 #35
I look at the definition as a whole. You want to split hairs on what individual words mean shadowrider Apr 2012 #40
No he doesn't Phlem Apr 2012 #45
You know about the mentality? AH1Apache Apr 2012 #48
oooh good one! Phlem Apr 2012 #54
you know why your getting these insane arguments? Phlem Apr 2012 #50
Oh look everyone AH1Apache Apr 2012 #63
Pretty crazy, huh? DanTex Apr 2012 #66
you said it I didn't chief. Phlem Apr 2012 #70
Did you not listen to his 911 call? ellisonz Apr 2012 #113
What burglary was Zimmerman avenging? shadowrider Apr 2012 #116
He was avenging the prior break-ins. ellisonz Apr 2012 #121
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #124
By the way, you need to call the prosecution with your thoughtful insight shadowrider Apr 2012 #125
Sooo..... AzWorker Apr 2012 #77
You might like the word, but he is not a vigilante WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #93
You guys need to quit reading word for word for word while pointing your finger. Hoyt Apr 2012 #95
no, gejohnston Apr 2012 #98
Funny. Clames Apr 2012 #99
911 operators are not police gejohnston Apr 2012 #14
Small point of correction shadowrider Apr 2012 #17
Don't forget the NBPP and their $10k reward for Zimmerman dead or alive. shadowrider Apr 2012 #9
Decried by Martin's family, the BPP, Sharpton and others. But you didn't mention that. freshwest Apr 2012 #12
Wrong, but thanks for playing shadowrider Apr 2012 #15
Did I mention Lee and Barr? Yes, they're assholes for taking advantages. And I could refer to you to freshwest Apr 2012 #67
Hysteria? shadowrider Apr 2012 #71
I know all of that and decried their recklessness on threads at the time. So? freshwest Apr 2012 #75
"so why identify with him? " sylvi Apr 2012 #105
Well said AzWorker Apr 2012 #107
Right, NBPP are a bunch of vigilantes. DanTex Apr 2012 #25
You know what is hilarious about all this... ellisonz Apr 2012 #114
Regardles how massive of a joke they are, they have $10k REAL dollars for shadowrider Apr 2012 #117
Has anyone seen the money? ellisonz Apr 2012 #120
C'mon man. If someone THINKS the money is there, and they see Zimmerman shadowrider Apr 2012 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Apr 2012 #123
Does the fact the 6 members of the so-called New Panthers made a stupid statement change the fact Hoyt Apr 2012 #96
It is not stupid if gejohnston Apr 2012 #97
Nobody is going to take them up on it. And they wouldn't pay anyway because you can't find the 6 Hoyt Apr 2012 #100
since I don't carry, I won't be reaching for much. gejohnston Apr 2012 #101
Yeah, kinda like you guys were calling for ted nugget to be arrested by the SS. rl6214 Apr 2012 #126
I suspect he messed his pants meeting with them without a gun or bow. Hoyt Apr 2012 #129
English translation please rl6214 Apr 2012 #130
Like Zimmerman and many other toters, he's a coward without a gun. Hoyt Apr 2012 #131
"Typing on phone with auto-speller sucks also." rl6214 Apr 2012 #134
Shot in self defense? Phlem Apr 2012 #39
number of guns doesn't matter gejohnston Apr 2012 #44
Sure I have. Phlem Apr 2012 #47
He was never told not to follow Martin. shadowrider Apr 2012 #51
if it wasn't a case of trial by media then gejohnston Apr 2012 #53
Really? Clames Apr 2012 #79
and the rest Phlem Apr 2012 #85
PS. Phlem Apr 2012 #86
So what? Clames Apr 2012 #89
your working on Zimmerman level. Phlem Apr 2012 #106
You should focus on being an adult... Clames Apr 2012 #109
"It takes an adult to responsible with a gun" rl6214 Apr 2012 #127
I don't think anyone is making that argument. Clames Apr 2012 #4
I have read the statutes. DanTex Apr 2012 #6
Obviously you haven't... Clames Apr 2012 #11
Actually I have. Have you? DanTex Apr 2012 #16
I have. Clames Apr 2012 #24
Zimmerman was a "law abiding" CCer. A "sheepdog". DanTex Apr 2012 #33
So to you... Clames Apr 2012 #81
So you think Trayvon "had it coming", huh? Wow! DanTex Apr 2012 #87
Nope. Clames Apr 2012 #91
Who is this "Hoyt" you refer to? TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #36
I've seen my name thrown out there too on a thread in which I'm not participating shadowrider Apr 2012 #42
Dunno. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #102
Well go look in other threads... Clames Apr 2012 #69
You may have read the statutes ... spin Apr 2012 #82
"gun hero mentality" rl6214 Apr 2012 #128
What is the insistence on the part sylvi Apr 2012 #5
Martin was murdered. krispos42 Apr 2012 #7
Exactly. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #104
Some don't believe they'd ever be in Martin's shoes, and are pushing away that terror. freshwest Apr 2012 #10
I've decided. I've decided you're full of it shadowrider Apr 2012 #26
Wow, your name is Dan Tex. I didn't know he had a twin. freshwest Apr 2012 #56
What utter bullshit AH1Apache Apr 2012 #34
Getting a bit riled up about my explaination to Dan Tex, huh? If it doesn't apply to you, forget it. freshwest Apr 2012 #61
Nope not riled up AH1Apache Apr 2012 #65
Your hyperbole over one post shows you to be riled up. freshwest Apr 2012 #72
Correct AH1Apache Apr 2012 #74
This case certainly has a polarizing effect. lacrew Apr 2012 #19
This stopped being about Martin long ago shadowrider Apr 2012 #30
Several hot topics lacrew Apr 2012 #52
Put on your flame suit. shadowrider Apr 2012 #57
The timeline you mention is KEY... AzWorker Apr 2012 #84
See the timeline here shadowrider Apr 2012 #88
Apparently Zimmerman appointed himself judge, jury and executioner. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #20
Martin didn't do anything. He didn't deserve a stop, arrest, trial, OR murder. saras Apr 2012 #20
I'm with you on this AH1Apache Apr 2012 #29
And what crimes was he convicted of that would require he "deserve" to be in jail? shadowrider Apr 2012 #32
Manslaughter at the least nt. eilen Apr 2012 #60
I'm confused shadowrider Apr 2012 #64
I think I misunderstood your question. nt. eilen Apr 2012 #68
He wasn't convicted. His daddy got him off. And you know this already. saras Apr 2012 #111
Not sure if serious pneutin Apr 2012 #115
What I know is, he wasn't convicted of anything shadowrider Apr 2012 #118
Unfortunately, we will never hear Trayvon's side. eilen Apr 2012 #58
The gun was confiscated. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #62
This just shows how people who have decided the case have no clue what's going on shadowrider Apr 2012 #73
Isn't it amazing? sylvi Apr 2012 #92
Who needs to sit on a jury? They make up their minds, facts be damned. Now execute. shadowrider Apr 2012 #94
yup jpak Apr 2012 #59
At issue to my mind rrneck Apr 2012 #37
You spoke my thought sarisataka Apr 2012 #103
I'm thinking... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #90
Sure, but.... AzWorker Apr 2012 #108
The question is this. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #110
How do you know all of this? TPaine7 Apr 2012 #132
Police reports, 911 tapes, Martin's GF's statement about the call. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #133
The problem with giving assailants a fair judge/jury/trial... their victim might be dead by then. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #119
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