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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
63. Romulans ARE Vulcans
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:10 PM
Apr 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulans

The Romulans began as a revolutionary group of Vulcans, who were referenced as "those who march beneath the Raptor's wings" and refused to accept the Vulcan philosopher Surak's teachings of complete suppression of emotions. Around 400 AD, the dissident group split off from Vulcan society and began the long journey to the planets Romulus and Remus.

The Romulans are of the Vulcan species. One of three theories regarding how the Romulans arrived at the stellar system that includes the planets Romulus and Remus involves Sargon's people, referred to in conjecture as the "Arretians", as mentioned in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Return to Tomorrow". Sargon claimed that his people had seeded their species throughout the galaxy, and Spock said that could explain some enigmas of Vulcan pre-history. Hanoch, one of Sargon's people and a rival, further claimed that Spock's hybrid Human-Vulcan body was a "good fit" for his alien physiology. If these claims are true, then the Arretians may have been the antecedents for the Romulans — and indeed, they may have also been the species known as the Preservers. The inhabitants of Mintaka III ("Who Watches The Watchers?&quot seem to support this theory.

Another theory says that Vulcan colonization efforts led to a split, or schism, between factions favoring the school of logic espoused by the philosopher Surak and opposition groups, led by S'task, which ended up leaving Vulcan. However, there is no explicit canon evidence that the group which left Vulcan was in rebellion against Surak. The "Vulcan Soul" Trilogy, written by Josepha Sherman and Susan Shwartz, told the story that it was Surak's idea that some of the Vulcan population should leave their homeworld to find a new home so that the Vulcan race could be preserved due to the endless wars then raging on the homeworld. (Conversely, the Star Trek: Enterprise episode "Awakening" includes a line from the long-deceased Surak referring to the enemies of logic in his time as "those who marched beneath the raptor's wing": this would appear to be a reference to the symbol of the Romulan Empire.) These Vulcans arrived on Romulus and founded what would become the Romulan Star Empire. This theory is supported by a reference within the Star Trek: Enterprise episode "United": Senator Vrax refers to Vulcans as "our distant brothers" during the first part of the episode.

Information from "Balance Of Terror" suggests yet a different theory. While Spock makes it clear that the events during the period of Surak are well documented ("The Savage Curtain&quot , he is completely uncertain in regard to the origin of the Romulans: "If the Romulans are an offshoot of my Vulcan blood--and I think this likely--then attack becomes even more imperative. Vulcan, like Earth, had its aggressive, colonizing period, and if they have retained that martial philosophy... then weakness is something we dare not show."
Spock on Gun Logic [View all] DWC Apr 2012 OP
Spock never said that...you're just being silly... rfranklin Apr 2012 #1
Spock knows baser toters gunners guns kill people. ileus Apr 2012 #2
Is that another Pro Gunner threat? Walk away Apr 2012 #3
True. Hoyt Apr 2012 #4
maybe we shouldn't have assumed spock was a D all these years. ileus Apr 2012 #6
It's the Romulan in him. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #7
I thought he was Vulcan and Human? rl6214 Apr 2012 #55
Geek mode on. jeepnstein Apr 2012 #57
Romulans ARE Vulcans MicaelS Apr 2012 #63
Interesting interpretation. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #9
There are other images of Spock GreydeeThos Apr 2012 #48
Huh? PavePusher Apr 2012 #13
why do you want to take stuff away from people? You want to take away the right for gays to marry Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #49
Looks more like common sense to me rl6214 Apr 2012 #54
If you think about it, it is really the opposite of a threat. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #61
Way too funny!!! RegieRocker Apr 2012 #5
SPOCK FOR PRESIDENT! Remmah2 Apr 2012 #8
SYG laws will allow this bongbong Apr 2012 #10
Please show me where I can fill out a 4473 for a machine gun. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #12
Sure you can conceal a .50 BMG: Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #14
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #16
Well, I'm actually toying with the idea of buying a .50 GI conversion kit for my Glock. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #18
If ya need it bongbong Apr 2012 #21
It's perfectly legal, and I don't need it to "feel safe". Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #23
Yeah, sure bongbong Apr 2012 #29
You would be doing direct harm to someone who doesn't deserve it. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #30
Sure, if you're a Chicago alderman you can do whatever you want! DonP Apr 2012 #47
And there are people who feel unsafe at the thought of a firearm. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #44
pretzel logic is twisted. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #50
Mini .50. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #31
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #15
So if a person owns 352 guns. Or say only 2.......... Remmah2 Apr 2012 #17
Yawn bongbong Apr 2012 #19
Some good answers. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #24
OK bongbong Apr 2012 #28
Please continue... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #32
As opposed to cut and paste answers? Remmah2 Apr 2012 #37
OK bongbong Apr 2012 #41
Debate? Remmah2 Apr 2012 #45
because Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #51
Princess Leia would not have approved of a 3 day waiting period. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #43
NRA talking points? rl6214 Apr 2012 #56
"Criminals are exempt from the law." DWC Apr 2012 #58
I got more results Glassunion Apr 2012 #34
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #38
The question was "What good does a 3 day waiting period make?" Glassunion Apr 2012 #46
Um... Did you actually read any of those articles? sarisataka Apr 2012 #52
so Florida and California should have lower murder rates gejohnston Apr 2012 #53
Waiting periods make gun controllers feel good about themselves. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #20
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #22
The issue has been researched. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #25
You bet! bongbong Apr 2012 #27
So name them. beevul Apr 2012 #33
asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #35
I read post 19. beevul Apr 2012 #42
I can answer a question. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #36
Yep bongbong Apr 2012 #39
The unanswered question. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #40
Oh my Glaug-Eldare Apr 2012 #11
welcome to DU Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #59
Since we're on the subject of Star Trek and guns... Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #26
~ Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #60
how does this fit the SoP? what am I missing here? has this one NOT been alerted? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #62
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