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In reply to the discussion: Md Gun law found unconstitutional [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)43. not exactly authoritative, is it?
From the article:
We disagree with this ruling, Assistant Attorney General Matthew Fader said in a statement. In light of the very important implications of the ruling for public safety, the defendants will be appealing to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. The defendants will also be seeking a stay of the ruling pending appeal.
Jonathan Lowy, director of legal action project at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which assists states and cities in facing gun law challenges, expects the 4th Circuit to overturn the ruling.
The Supreme Court has recognized the right to have guns in homes, but there is no right in public places, Lowy said. What Maryland does is reasonable. It allows law enforcement to make judgment based on substantial reasons why someone needs to carry a loaded gun in public. Thats not rationing and certainly not unconstitutional.
... This suit is one of several federal suits the foundation is bringing across the nation, but it is the first time the foundation has had success before reaching the appeals level, according to foundation Founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb.
Jonathan Lowy, director of legal action project at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which assists states and cities in facing gun law challenges, expects the 4th Circuit to overturn the ruling.
The Supreme Court has recognized the right to have guns in homes, but there is no right in public places, Lowy said. What Maryland does is reasonable. It allows law enforcement to make judgment based on substantial reasons why someone needs to carry a loaded gun in public. Thats not rationing and certainly not unconstitutional.
... This suit is one of several federal suits the foundation is bringing across the nation, but it is the first time the foundation has had success before reaching the appeals level, according to foundation Founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb.
Is it maybe actually the first time it has had success, period?
If the case were so easily argued, why have the NRA and its buddies been spending so much money on subverting the democratic process and getting their way by intimidating state legislatures and governors, instead of getting the definitive word from the courts?
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Cite the historical records, writtings of the authors of the Constitution and Amendments...
PavePusher
Mar 2012
#38
re: "...when "the people" are bearing arms, they're maintaining a militia."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2012
#58
Regardless of your blatant misinterpretation, MY state has no such clause to misinterpret.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#94
The second half was aimed, quite obviously, at individuals and corporations building
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#96
I'm not sure if we're speaking the same language, or if you are being intentionally obtuse.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2012
#107
That's because all it takes is one example to demonstrate the hole in your arguement.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#21
I'm not going to slog through this. I reject the entire premise of "collective rights".
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#49
There is nothing that the people as a whole can do that a single person cannot do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#54
You're almost there. What ACTIONS do individuals have the RIGHT to do.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#81
Nope, still no actions listed that the public can undertake that individuals cannot.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#88
I made the mistake of checking in latest threads instead of the forum - lesson learned. Sorry again
kelly1mm
Mar 2012
#9
"Rationing" can also be used to describe meting something out by perceived need.
TheWraith
Mar 2012
#13