Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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8. rank authoritarianism isn't

Sat Jul 15, 2017, 06:29 PM

Jul 2017

our guy/gal loses. Rank authoritarianism is limiting the BoR like limits on speech, due process, warrantless searches etc. It is also taking dictatorial powers.
Calling for "hate speech laws", which is simply speech you don't like, is authoritarian. So is "gun violence protection orders" that violate the fifth amendment's due process and takings clauses. Am I saying some anti gunners are authoritarian? Well, yes. That also makes most of Europe, especially the autocrats at the EU commission, more authoritarian than we are. There, they limit speech, guns, and abortion much more than we do.

When Trump, or Pence, declare themselves "president for life" and starts putting people in concentration camps, I'll be concerned. In the meantime, I'll work for a proper replacement and defend liberal values against authoritarians on the right and the left. I'm old enough to remember POTUSes as bad or worse. Nixon and Wilson come to mind.

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redneckrevolt.org [View all] Paladin Jul 2017 OP

They seem to be calling for armed insurrection snpsmom Jul 2017 #1

basically, they are anarchists. gejohnston Jul 2017 #3

Are they liberal or far left wing, gejohnston Jul 2017 #2

I kind of figured this group wouldn't come off as well as the NRA, here. Paladin Jul 2017 #4

A good counterbalance IMO to Trump, Inc.! RKP5637 Jul 2017 #5

Do you pay more attention to the labels or the substance? gejohnston Jul 2017 #6

I tell you what I pay attention to: Paladin Jul 2017 #7

rank authoritarianism isn't gejohnston Jul 2017 #8

What is your definition of "rank authoritarianism"? Marengo Jul 2017 #22

"you people" oneshooter Jul 2017 #11

"you people" ileus Jul 2017 #14

Just out of curiosity, sarisataka Jul 2017 #16

What "ugly suspicions" would those be? Marengo Jul 2017 #25

Where did you run off to? Why did you run off? Why do I have that song from The Caine Mutiny... Marengo Jul 2017 #36

Thanks for the info discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #9

Tries to troll gungeon with socialist/communism far left website - Alea Jul 2017 #10

Accurate and concise. NT pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #12

Yeah, I've been "trolling" my gun viewpoints at DU since 2001. Paladin Jul 2017 #13

On the contrary, I felt their assessment was *quite* accurate friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #19

They seem to have some radical views sarisataka Jul 2017 #15

I'm looking into them. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #17

Always wise to exercise caution with gun-oriented organizations. Paladin Jul 2017 #18

So you support their notion of an individual right to bear arms? hack89 Jul 2017 #20

Did you donate? Do you still own guns? Marengo Jul 2017 #21

Are you an armed Democrat? Have you donated and/or are active in his organization? Marengo Jul 2017 #23

I've learned from bitter experience not to answer personal questions from pro-gun activists. Paladin Jul 2017 #24

Seems rather gutless to me, especially considering your fondness for veiled accusations. Marengo Jul 2017 #26

I don't respond well to people who accuse me of being "gutless." Paladin Jul 2017 #28

Passive aggression is gutless though hack89 Jul 2017 #29

Gutlessness confirmed, but not unexpected. Marengo Jul 2017 #30

What does a refusal to acknowledge or discuss their own previous statements tell us about a person? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #32

You really suck at trolling hack89 Jul 2017 #27

Yeah - I'm out... jmg257 Jul 2017 #31

I hear you- that mindset tends to lead either to the Weathermen or the Reign of Terror friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #33

Yep - since when did "armed Democrat" become "armed anarchist who wants to use their guns jmg257 Jul 2017 #34

Never: this is sub-James O'Keefe level trolling... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #35

It seems that a UK You Tuber found it, gejohnston Jul 2017 #37

Much of the YouTube commentary is, not surprisingly, vile- but some is dead on: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #41

Do you buy into this shit? You are all for militant resistance, anarchy & armed revolution?? jmg257 Jul 2017 #38

Yeah, well..... Paladin Jul 2017 #39

Implying that those who disagree with you are Friends of Wayne (and Ted)? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #40

Well - that's great. I don't see anyone here posting positive notions about Wayne or Ted, jmg257 Jul 2017 #42

That one has long promoted a Manichaean view of gun owners- you're either an 'enlightened' one... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #43

Some people must be just dying to really use their guns - for SOMEthing they can somehow justify. jmg257 Jul 2017 #45

I figured a left-leaning gun group would be of interest to this group. Paladin Jul 2017 #44

So again, you buy into all this armed revolution shit. You looking forward to killing 'the rich'? jmg257 Jul 2017 #46

I'm not going to bother trying to correct all of your erroneous thoughts and accusations. Paladin Jul 2017 #47

Yes, and I am sure all life is precious to you, too! jmg257 Jul 2017 #49

The David Clarke/"Uncle Ruckus"-style "antigun gun owner" is a familiar trope at DU friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #54

I wish I could say sarisataka Jul 2017 #48

You promote a straw narrative- any group that says "It is now time to turn our guns on..our enemies" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #50

I'm an armed Democrat who supports gun control and thinks this is fucking moronic. n/t Downtown Hound Jul 2017 #51

Suits me. Thanks for the comment. Paladin Jul 2017 #52

Yes you did. Downtown Hound Jul 2017 #53