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jimmy the one

(2,714 posts)
19. wrong again batman
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:03 PM
Oct 2015

Johnston: actually, they do have a gun free policy there were no kids with guns there. The kids would have been under 21, too young for a CCW.

I was 25 when I graduated college. And 26 too. Students come in all ages these days.

A veteran who says he was carrying a concealed weapon on the UCC campus when 26-year-old Mercer went on a murderous rampage, says he didn’t intervene because he knew police SWAT team members wouldn’t know him from the shooter. In an interview with MSNBC, vet John Parker said he knows lots of students who conceal carry at the school because, despite a school policy that discourages weapons on campus, Oregon state law does allow it.
...Parker explained that his military training provided him with the skills to “go into danger,” but said he felt lucky he and others didn’t try to get involved going after Mercer. “Luckily we made the choice not to get involved,” And we could have opened ourselves up to be potential targets ourselves, and not knowing where SWAT was, their response time, they wouldn’t know who we were. And if we had our guns ready to shoot, they could think that we were bad guys.”
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/10/02/vet-with-concealed-weapon-explains-why-he-didnt-shoot-in-umpqua

Despite the protestations of gun rights advocates {like Johnston}, Umpqua Community College is not actually a "gun-free zone." In 2012, the Oregon State Board of Higher Education unanimously voted to ban guns inside university buildings, but not on campus grounds overall. While UCC is not dictated by the SBHE, its policy on weapons is reportedly comparable.
http://mic.com/articles/126203/this-armed-vet-at-umpqua-nails-why-eliminating-gun-free-zones-won-t-stop-mass-shootings

Johnston: actually, they do have a gun free policy there were no kids with guns there. The kids would have been under 21, too young for a CCW.

Do you understand how the facts make you wrong again, Johnston?

Johnston: Fact is, good guys with guns do stop bad guys with or without guns.. Even gun control activist and academic David Hemenway admits that it happens over 100K times a year. .

Sure it does happen, but not nearly enough to outweigh the carnage of gun death & injury & mayhem.

johnston: Just because former Monsanto PR executive Shannon Watts said so while working for Bloomberg, doesn't mean it is true. If the source matters, Watts is a PR professional who headed Monstanto's GMOs are good for you.... decades of studies in peer reviewed criminology journals and replicated as being valid vs the tweets of a former Monstanto PR executive who happens to be on the payroll of a narcissistic, authoritarian, and racist billionaire. You can pretty well guess which claim is I think is suspect. http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime

Here's a sterling example of Johnston posting a 'liar's link', without citing anything; he imposes upon readers to 'guess who I am!'. We don't want to play guessing games with your liar's links Johnston. We're not that interested in how the right wing democrat mind works. Cite specifically how you think your link supports you.
What exactly did Shannon watts 'say so' about defensive gun uses?

The campus is NOT gun free. SheilaT Oct 2015 #1
actually, they do have a gun free policy gejohnston Oct 2015 #2
Those numbers are highly suspect. SheilaT Oct 2015 #3
suspect? gejohnston Oct 2015 #4
wrong again batman jimmy the one Oct 2015 #19
nope, I'm right as always gejohnston Oct 2015 #23
mr ego says he's always right jimmy the one Oct 2015 #24
is your foot sore? jimmy the one Oct 2015 #25
you clearly missed the point gejohnston Oct 2015 #26
provide link jimmy the one Oct 2015 #29
Watts said a lot of things wrong in the clip gejohnston Oct 2015 #30
no support from your link to what you say jimmy the one Oct 2015 #31
Pfft. New life is just an example. beevul Oct 2015 #34
I can think of a couple examples gejohnston Oct 2015 #35
year of the rat jimmy the one Oct 2015 #36
I proved that she is a gejohnston Oct 2015 #37
3rd request to j man jimmy the one Oct 2015 #40
It was a video, not a tweet- but she still said it *and you know it, as you replied to it*: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #42
Also, Shannon Watts is demonstrated liar and a poor excuse for a Democrat... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #43
Big fan of GMO foods at Monsanto too. DonP Oct 2015 #44
OK, now PROVE IT jimmy the one Oct 2015 #48
Glad you asked, here's several: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #50
Massive Iconic Fail jimmy the one Oct 2015 #52
I believe my examples met your criteria. Whether *you* agree or disagree is not my concern n/t friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #54
I don't report and alert gejohnston Oct 2015 #45
4th request jimmy the one Oct 2015 #49
Shannon Watts is a proven liar and a piss-poor excuse for a Democrat friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #51
10:04 in the video. You're wrong. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #55
Another one jumps in the briar patch jimmy the one Oct 2015 #59
You, and Shannon Watts, are still wrong, and she's still a liar. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #62
not applicable jimmy the one Oct 2015 #64
You're asking for proof of a logical fallacy. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #65
prevented is not stopped jimmy the one Oct 2015 #67
Don't take the shouting and handwaving too much to heart- we're dealing with a version of these: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #61
See, I don't think Jimmy's really a flat earther. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #63
a fake faking it jimmy the one Oct 2015 #68
shannon tweet jimmy the one Oct 2015 #69
sure gejohnston Oct 2015 #56
Pot, stop calling the kettle black. beevul Oct 2015 #33
It's the same reason kudzu22 Oct 2015 #5
Respectfully, carrying a weapon is for self-defense, not strategic law enforcement... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #8
"What we never get..." beevul Oct 2015 #14
former cop, working as security guard jimmy the one Oct 2015 #18
I think youre having some troubles. beevul Oct 2015 #20
go away jimmy the one Oct 2015 #21
Volunteer security... Wouldn't want you to miss that detail. beevul Oct 2015 #22
poor you jimmy the one Oct 2015 #28
Oh, I'm sorry, beevul Oct 2015 #32
snopes fact check on assam jimmy the one Oct 2015 #38
more truth about jeanne assam jimmy the one Oct 2015 #39
I'm still sorry. beevul Oct 2015 #41
trip down memory lane for bull weasels jimmy the one Oct 2015 #53
There isn't much there to rebut. beevul Oct 2015 #57
I believe one of gejohnston's graphics best describes the situation: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #58
wrong again batman beevul jimmy the one Oct 2015 #60
Wrong about what? beevul Oct 2015 #66
wrong about a lot jimmy the one Oct 2015 #70
Firearms don't have guided bullets....line of sight only. ileus Oct 2015 #11
Most "gun free zone" policies have no force of law. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #6
That should be changed. No reason to coddle terrorists on university campuses. stone space Oct 2015 #9
back to you old self I see Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #10
As usual, I see you are still missing the target. Lurks Often Oct 2015 #13
This is a lie. stone space Oct 2015 #15
That is exactly what you meant Lurks Often Oct 2015 #17
Ya know stone, GGJohn Oct 2015 #47
So do you believe sarisataka Oct 2015 #16
You said, and I quote: GGJohn Oct 2015 #46
So, a dozen students with guns. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #7
Our hospital is the same way, we have those silly little signs on the doors ileus Oct 2015 #12
for the nra - the shooter killed himself so more arms would have had him bring more weapons patsimp Oct 2015 #27
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