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In reply to the discussion: Gun control advocates have a victory to look forward to -- UPDATED [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,496 posts)113. Justice
...or the lack thereof:
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/07/third-world-justice-in-new-jersey-ray-rice-versus-shaneen-allen/#axzz399LC0epE
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11257692/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-suspended-2-games
Ray Rice is a famous football player. Rice was not prosecuted after he knocked his fiancée unconscious in an Atlantic City casino earlier this year.
Instead, Rice received a two game suspension from the NFL. Contrast his treatment with how the legal system treated Shaneen Allen.
Allen was accused of making an illegal lane change as she drove through New Jersey. She faces up to ten years in state prison because she carried a firearm she legally owned in Pennsylvania.
...
After their arrest, both Rice and Allen qualified for a diversion program for first time offenders. Rice would take classes on domestic violence and have a clean record if he stayed out of trouble. Maybe Allen would take classes on New Jerseys crazy concealed carry laws. Though both were accepted into the program, the prosecuting attorney accepted Rices diversion but rejected Allens diversion. The prosecutor allowed a violent multi-millionaire to clear his record but prosecuted a single mom working two jobs. They kept Shaneen Allen in jail for 46 days until she could make bail. Because they kept her in jail, she nearly lost her jobs, her home and her children.
...
It gets crazier. There is an ongoing amnesty in New Jersey for people to turn in their handguns without question. That means Shaneen Allen should have been able to surrender her handgun and avoid prosecution entirely. That treatment only applies if the prosecutor in Atlantic County cared to follow the law and seek a shred of justice. He doesnt. The prosecutor only cares to make a name for himself. Putting a rich football star in jail would make the prosecutor look like an idiot on the sports pages. It is also bad business to prosecute millionaires who visit the New Jersey Casinos.. even if they beat people unconscious. Money talks in the New Jersey casinos.. and money talks in the New Jersey courtroom.
I understand the arrest in the Rice case because we have an actual victim. We know Rice physically assaulted someone, someone who had not attacked him first and someone who was both physically smaller and weaker than he was. There is no victim in the Shaneen Allen case.. except Shaneen. The prosecutor is nothing more than a grandstanding politician trying to pad his conviction numbers as he prosecutes Shaneen Allen. We used to expect this sort of corrupt behavior from abusive southern sheriffs back in the 1960s.
Instead, Rice received a two game suspension from the NFL. Contrast his treatment with how the legal system treated Shaneen Allen.
Allen was accused of making an illegal lane change as she drove through New Jersey. She faces up to ten years in state prison because she carried a firearm she legally owned in Pennsylvania.
...
After their arrest, both Rice and Allen qualified for a diversion program for first time offenders. Rice would take classes on domestic violence and have a clean record if he stayed out of trouble. Maybe Allen would take classes on New Jerseys crazy concealed carry laws. Though both were accepted into the program, the prosecuting attorney accepted Rices diversion but rejected Allens diversion. The prosecutor allowed a violent multi-millionaire to clear his record but prosecuted a single mom working two jobs. They kept Shaneen Allen in jail for 46 days until she could make bail. Because they kept her in jail, she nearly lost her jobs, her home and her children.
...
It gets crazier. There is an ongoing amnesty in New Jersey for people to turn in their handguns without question. That means Shaneen Allen should have been able to surrender her handgun and avoid prosecution entirely. That treatment only applies if the prosecutor in Atlantic County cared to follow the law and seek a shred of justice. He doesnt. The prosecutor only cares to make a name for himself. Putting a rich football star in jail would make the prosecutor look like an idiot on the sports pages. It is also bad business to prosecute millionaires who visit the New Jersey Casinos.. even if they beat people unconscious. Money talks in the New Jersey casinos.. and money talks in the New Jersey courtroom.
I understand the arrest in the Rice case because we have an actual victim. We know Rice physically assaulted someone, someone who had not attacked him first and someone who was both physically smaller and weaker than he was. There is no victim in the Shaneen Allen case.. except Shaneen. The prosecutor is nothing more than a grandstanding politician trying to pad his conviction numbers as he prosecutes Shaneen Allen. We used to expect this sort of corrupt behavior from abusive southern sheriffs back in the 1960s.
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/07/third-world-justice-in-new-jersey-ray-rice-versus-shaneen-allen/#axzz399LC0epE
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11257692/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-suspended-2-games
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Gun control advocates have a victory to look forward to -- UPDATED [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
OP
3 years is the mandatory minimum sentence unless the DA opts for "1st time offender" program.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#7
"Yes, people do have a right to earn their living without breaking laws."
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#14
wow. Pro-RKBA'ers continually claim anti-2A'ers have no respect for other civil rights as well.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#17
Following the law merely because it is "the law" is ALWAYS the basis for tyranny.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#79
Sorry, just reread your post, and I misinterpreted it the first time.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2014
#29
Whether or not the criminals were armed and if so, with what, is immaterial.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#13
There are laws against robbing people. Why would those criminals suddenly obey gun laws?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#21
So, in other words you are celebrating the victory of destroying the mother in the OP.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#40
The gun is powerless, inert and inanimate when it is independent of its possessor.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#86
Self-defense is a fundamental right. States do not get to choose how to regulate and enforce
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#41
Simple way to resolve this problem, machine guns and bazookas are legal in all states for all ages
randys1
Jul 2014
#51
You guys are predictable, as soon as the correct penis observation comes in, you react
randys1
Jul 2014
#55
If you are so opposed to guns, how can you possibly wish this woman to NOT face any consequences?
Jenoch
Jul 2014
#89
For being honest with authorities? while others point guns at federal agents and with
randys1
Jul 2014
#92
"My being against guns in general has nothing to do with the injustice this Woman is facing..."
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#91
Be sure to forward all you penis references to the following organization --
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#77
Stupid laws should be repealeded. And if they aren't repealed they should be ignored.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#78
What about the nature of her offense merits destroying her life and her family?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#101
"As a gun owner, it is her responsibility to be familiar with the gun laws of her state..."
beevul
Jul 2014
#105
She is not the person with the criminal history being referred to in those statements
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2014
#107
So a woman can be assaulted with impunity but a woman who wants to protect herself from an assault
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2014
#114