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jimmy the one

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34. no lie, but a bit misleading I suppose
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jun 2014

the link: Everytown says on its web site that it gleans its information from media reports and that its list includes school shootings involving a firearm discharged inside or on school grounds, including assaults, homicides, suicides and accidental shootings.
Some of the other incidents on Everytown's list included personal arguments, accidents and alleged gang activities and drug deals

CNN determined that 15 of the incidents Everytown included were situations similar to the violence in Oregon -- a minor or adult actively shooting inside or near a school. That works out to about one shooting every five weeks.


15 evidently were 'planned school attacks' if you will, while the 59 others were evidently spontaneous or not intended to be an attack on school students or personnel per se. A truer representative number would be somewhere between 15 & 74, to exclude general mayhem with guns.
Doesn't include property crime committed with guns, on school property, either, to my knowledge.

Wow! You'd almost think somebody (Bloomberg) is trying to "sell fear"? N/T DonP Jun 2014 #1
It's not just Bloomberg. From another DU group, story about using the PTA to leverage lies: NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #61
The second comment has been on my mind lately DonP Jun 2014 #62
Wow! 15 out of 74, you'd think someone is trying to minimize the slaughter! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #2
+1 villager Jun 2014 #3
all public policy should be based on gejohnston Jun 2014 #8
Well we know that cold, dead steel has long informed your posts here. villager Jun 2014 #12
no, one side is trying to create numbers gejohnston Jun 2014 #10
stop creating numbers, johnston advises, HA! jimmy the one Jun 2014 #31
sorry, you disproved nothing gejohnston Jun 2014 #33
tired of this tapdance jimmy the one Jun 2014 #35
if you are tired of tap dancing, gejohnston Jun 2014 #36
utter nonsense jimmy the one Jun 2014 #37
clap trap? gejohnston Jun 2014 #39
J's hat trick jimmy the one Jun 2014 #54
can't dispute the scholarship, attack the person. gejohnston Jun 2014 #55
more guns more lies jimmy the one Jun 2014 #56
you lose another round. gejohnston Jun 2014 #57
GE, I'd like to point out... beevul Jun 2014 #60
please learn how to read jimmy the one Jun 2014 #58
Your sig were not Burger's words gejohnston Jun 2014 #59
I wonder when blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #4
What am I missing here? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #6
Only 1 in 5 (15 of 74) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17
OK, so that makes it 15 Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #18
Why the need to lie about the numbers? hack89 Jun 2014 #22
Nothing above Zero is "acceptable". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #23
OK, valid point. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #27
the difference is gejohnston Jun 2014 #32
Kobiyashi Maru. If the rules don't fit your goal, change them. flamin lib Jun 2014 #26
Is the Oregon shooting "mass shooting?" Saw it described that way Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #47
Woudn't seem to fit the description of a "mass shooting". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48
Very sad. Do you have a comment? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #5
I think Bloomberg is an authoritarian sack of shit hack89 Jun 2014 #7
LaPierre is sooooooooo much more honorable!!!1!11! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #9
If you want support Republican billionaires, knock yourself out. hack89 Jun 2014 #11
Oh, and Larry Pratt too!1!1!1!!!! flamin lib Jun 2014 #13
Larry Pratt is an asshole - just like Bloomberg nt. hack89 Jun 2014 #15
I'm sure you never shop at Walmart Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #21
There would be no "public safety" movement without Bloomberg and his money. hack89 Jun 2014 #24
I have no interest in Bloomberg, his politics or his wealth. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #25
Yet supporting gun rights = supporting Wayne LaPierre? hack89 Jun 2014 #28
I have no idea what you mean. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #29
Don't be obtuse hack89 Jun 2014 #30
Yeah, well it's still a misnomer. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #38
Civil right is the proper term. I will start using it instead hack89 Jun 2014 #43
I consider self defense to be a basic human right. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #44
Please, don't be concerned with upsetting me. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #45
consider this gejohnston Jun 2014 #40
OK, point taken Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #41
funny you should mention him gejohnston Jun 2014 #42
I think he is kind of stupid gejohnston Jun 2014 #14
Don't forget Alex Jones!1!!!1! He speaks for YOU!1!!!1! nt flamin lib Jun 2014 #16
More exclamation points! blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #19
!!1!1!!1!1!1!!!!!1!1!1!!!1!1!1! flamin lib Jun 2014 #20
no lie, but a bit misleading I suppose jimmy the one Jun 2014 #34
Never let the truth get in the way of an regressive agenda ileus Jun 2014 #46
Redefining 'school shootings' so they don’t count Electric Monk Jun 2014 #50
It isn't redefining anything gejohnston Jun 2014 #51
Also, if the gun control lobby can't be honest about this, why should they be believed when it come blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #52
The lying has already begun in the mainstrean news Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #53
johnston asks me to disprove 'his' claim jimmy the one Jun 2014 #63
not really gejohnston Jun 2014 #66
guns & the holocaust jimmy the one Jun 2014 #71
I didn't say the 1938 law didn't loosen laws gejohnston Jun 2014 #72
the myth of nazi gun control jimmy the one Jun 2014 #73
I didn't say the guncite undercut your thesis. gejohnston Jun 2014 #74
fish mongering jimmy the one Jun 2014 #76
you picked a unsourced claim? gejohnston Jun 2014 #79
chicago, LA, NYC, DC, NOT LIBERAL CITIES?????? jimmy the one Jun 2014 #64
it uses voting patterns as the only definition gejohnston Jun 2014 #65
on liberal cities jimmy the one Jun 2014 #75
cheesy hoc ergo moony hoc jimmy the one Jun 2014 #77
national gds, state militia jimmy the one Jun 2014 #78
You created a new fallacy? gejohnston Jun 2014 #80
Professional gun restrictionists are liars. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #49
15 or 74 mwrguy Jun 2014 #67
Groups that lie or distort will not (and should not) have much influence hack89 Jun 2014 #68
Yet when one misrepresents such a basic fact to such a large degree blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #69
Do you hold the same standards with swimming pool deaths, or traffic deaths? oneshooter Jun 2014 #70
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