Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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4. while that does happen

Wed May 7, 2014, 03:57 PM

May 2014

it is very rare. Almost all murderers have long records of criminality and violence, which is something criminologists have known for decades. I found a paper written by Marvin Wolfgang in 1958 on the very subject.
If there is no laws, there are no criminals. Criminals are by definition those who break laws. If there are no laws to break, there can be no criminals.
It reminded me of a quote by William Burroughs. That is not to say that I would hold him up as any kind of responsible gun owner given his manslaughter conviction in Mexico in 1951. Long story short, he played William Tell with his wife. He forgot the part that a drunk with a pistol is not as good of a marksman as a sober person with a cross bow.
There is evidence that serial killers are born, not made.

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What does this quote mean to you? [View all] gejohnston May 2014 OP

I would say it's somewhat naive Prophet 451 May 2014 #1

while that does happen gejohnston May 2014 #4

I'd like to see that evidence please Prophet 451 May 2014 #5

IIRC Patterns in Criminal Homicide gejohnston May 2014 #10

Thanks, I'll look for the article Prophet 451 May 2014 #11

Most of that can't be done by federal law gejohnston May 2014 #12

The gun show loophole Prophet 451 May 2014 #13

Actually no, gejohnston May 2014 #14

Target the laws to the unlawful behavior, not general activity. blueridge3210 May 2014 #2

It's questionable how well we've addressed that Prophet 451 May 2014 #6

Out of 300+ Million? blueridge3210 May 2014 #8

I think the cultural change had more effect, TBH Prophet 451 May 2014 #9

Oh absolutely. blueridge3210 May 2014 #15

I actually agree with extended clip bans Prophet 451 May 2014 #16

And yet blueridge3210 May 2014 #17

Sure, but... Prophet 451 May 2014 #18

Not saying anyone is necessarily born a criminal. blueridge3210 May 2014 #19

Well, I think 8 would be too small Prophet 451 May 2014 #21

second Brit I have seen say something like that gejohnston May 2014 #20

No, not duels Prophet 451 May 2014 #22

Both of my older brothers and grandfather were cops in my gejohnston May 2014 #23

This might be a US/UK thing Prophet 451 May 2014 #24

could be, there is even a couple of country songs about them gejohnston May 2014 #26

I don't know if it using violence to negotiate issues blueridge3210 May 2014 #25

A grossly simplistic statement of an age old problem tularetom May 2014 #3

Not just anybody gets to buy many types of medical or Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #7