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beevul

(12,194 posts)
35. From the "no shit" files...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:32 AM
Mar 2014
"The purpose of Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Brady Campaign is to counter the effort to weaken our nation's gun laws by the NRA."


No shit? Not a one off us ever considered that might be one facet of their nasty little agenda.

Your characterization is, however, incomplete. You spin their "purpose" as benevolently soft and cuddly and makes it sound like if the nra disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow, that they'd stop. But we all, you included, know that that just isn't the case, don't we. Your characterization, describes only one facet, of what is necessarily a multi-faceted set of goals, in a war of words over an issue a lot of people find important for a host of reasons.

One in which both sides are nearly diametrically opposed.

Some people would say, that considering the large amount of restrictions on guns which already exist, that the purpose of Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Brady Campaign is to limit a constitutionally protected right much farther than they think is right good or decent, which is a position that is not opposed to reducing gun violence other ways...of course none of the illegal mayors or the brady bunch, or any of the so called "gun safety/gun-violence-prevention" groups ever seem interested in those avenues. But then, like you said, their "purpose", is to counter the effort to weaken our nation's gun laws by the nra (not so much to reduce gun violence).

"The NRA represents the radical views of a minority of gun owners in our country. The gun lobby, with the financial support of gun manufacturers, has been able to push extreme pro-gun legislation through state legislatures and bypass the will of the voters, without opposition. Those days are over."


You know, right now, in the GCRKBA, theres a gun ban extremist posting in an active thread. A very active thread. And there have been others before. I note with great interest, as I'm sure many others do, that you never utter so much as a peep to them. Or about them. The gun ban extremists, I mean. The ones whos views are even less compatible with the party platform than those of the nra. You, being so active in gun threads, on and off for the last 7 years and change, and me being active in gun threads since then and even before...It begs the question in my mind, as to whether or not you're even in any position to be using the word "radical" in this discussion at all in the first place...and whether you're a gun ban extremist, like that other poster. If so, your position is even less compatible with the party platform than that of the nra is. If not, you sure seem selectively tolerant of certain positions that are less compatible with the party platform than that of the nra.

I'm sure you'll make your position known to us in a crystal clear way, given your history of interacting with posters that reply when you post an OP in this forum.

After the massacre at Sandy Hook and the debacle of Stand Your Ground laws, the tide has turned. Americans are uniting to pressure politicians for sane gun regulations. The Democratic Party support for strong gun regulations will win elections.


Riiiiight. Explain that to Colorado Democrats.


no, because gejohnston Mar 2014 #1
And your solution is what, exactly? To leave abused partners MORE defenseless? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #2
Of course!!! You have to depend on the Police, they are trained for that. n/t oneshooter Mar 2014 #3
Yes, right up to the point where the victim pantomimes the choke hold she was held in Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #4
Are you just programmed to spew NRA talking points SecularMotion Mar 2014 #5
are you just programmed to spew MAIG talking points gejohnston Mar 2014 #6
Did you reply to the wrong post? SecularMotion Mar 2014 #9
Y'know, to be fair... rrneck Mar 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author SecularMotion Mar 2014 #7
open forum, gejohnston Mar 2014 #8
I'm unfamiliar with these NRA talking points you refer to. Perhaps you can cite a reference. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #10
NRA talking points don't merit an answer. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #12
what are these talking points? gejohnston Mar 2014 #13
The purpose of Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the Brady Campaign SecularMotion Mar 2014 #14
false talking points gejohnston Mar 2014 #18
Your post seethes with anger for anyone who supports gun control. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #21
no, not anger at all. gejohnston Mar 2014 #22
Do you feel that way about the entire Democratic Party? SecularMotion Mar 2014 #24
I fail to see how you come to that conclusion gejohnston Mar 2014 #30
That is one of the most ludicrous arguments I've seen in a long time. Straw Man Mar 2014 #33
From the "no shit" files... beevul Mar 2014 #35
There is no NRA talking point, there is only you copping cheap excuses to cover for the fact Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #15
You've already shown yourself to be incapable of any honest discussion SecularMotion Mar 2014 #16
have you read the latest from NJ? gejohnston Mar 2014 #19
All I've done is asked you to clarify your self-contradicting arguments. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #20
Are you just being obtuse or do you really not understand the loophole? SecularMotion Mar 2014 #23
thats not a loophole bossy22 Mar 2014 #25
I'll bet you also deny the gun show loophole SecularMotion Mar 2014 #26
deflection much? bossy22 Mar 2014 #27
I'll bet you can't even **define** the "gun show loophole". pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #45
which begs the question gejohnston Mar 2014 #31
Suspects are also incarcerated before being proven guilty SecularMotion Mar 2014 #32
under federal law, gejohnston Mar 2014 #34
So, you're not in the mainstream... beevul Mar 2014 #37
I know that DV is a serious issue. I know that abusers have demonstrated violent behavior and are Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #38
Says the poster that makes the canned "nra talking points" responses. N/T beevul Mar 2014 #36
Very convenient for you. Straw Man Oct 2014 #41
How would you know? beevul Oct 2014 #47
Oh my discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2014 #48
"NRA talking points" is not a counter-argument. Straw Man Mar 2014 #29
Seems like 'loophole' is actually in the area of domestic violence prosecution petronius Mar 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Straw Man Mar 2014 #28
lifetime ban on ccw is wrong asadman Oct 2014 #39
No one should have a gun gopiscrap Oct 2014 #42
Then don't own one. benEzra Oct 2014 #44
I completely agree. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #46
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2014 #43
The "loophole" complained of is the Fifth Amend. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40
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