Gun Control & RKBA

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43. That's a good point. I legally carry a concealed handgun as open carry is illegal in my state. ...

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 05:27 PM

Sep 2013

I am willing to use it to stop an attacker who intends to put me in the hospital for an extended stay or six feet and and has the capacity to do so. I have no desire to kill another person in legitimate self defense but unfortunately that could happen.

I would have to be a total fool to carry a firearm for self defense if I was unwilling to shoot someone with it when there was no other choice. The attacker would simply take it from me and kill me with my own weapon.

I could also point out that owning a firearm for home defense if you are unwilling to shoot a violent intruder is also foolish.

Now of course you will probably think that I am a bloodthirsty gun nut looking for a chance to kill another person. That would be totally false.

Let's say I'm walking down a street and my situational awareness fails me. I find myself confronted by a mugger who demands I turn over my wallet. If he appeared to be rational, sane and in control of his emotions, I would simply give him my wallet. I can replace my money, credit cards and ID. It may be very difficult to replace my health and impossible to rise from the dead and return to my life. However if I have good reason to suspect that the person confronting me intends to hurt or kill me no matter what I do, I will use my handgun to try to stop him. Realistically I don't have much to lose in that situation.

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I'm sick and tired of being stereotyped as a bad guy just because I own a firearm! [View all] GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 OP

It's not the OWNING of a gun that gets to me.. annabanana Sep 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Sep 2013 #8

I can't believe someone would do that! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #12

Didn't realize I was in a gun forum. Not sure what your TOC is, so self deleted. --nt CrispyQ Sep 2013 #17

Yes, every single gun owner is responsible until they fuck up. denverbill Sep 2013 #30

^^ this ^^ bunnies Sep 2013 #34

until I fuck up, I'm responsible. period. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #37

In other words, no matter what anyone thinks of you, you're going to take your gun anywhere you want denverbill Sep 2013 #39

nope. you're putting words in my mouth. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #40

It's irresponsible to bring a loaded gun anywhere, in my book. denverbill Sep 2013 #42

We have licensure for concealed carry. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #47

That's what all the guys who fuck up say before they fuck up. Squinch Sep 2013 #60

I expected you to say that. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #84

If the potential for negligience is cause for prohibition then be prepared to Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #52

Poor analogy. jeff47 Sep 2013 #65

So, what is the use of alcohol? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #80

Self-defense via killing is still killing jeff47 Sep 2013 #83

"Self-defense via killing is still killing" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #85

Good or bad doesn't change the purpose. jeff47 Sep 2013 #87

Except you're decreeing it is bad without exception or intent. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #88

What part of "good or bad" are you not reading? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2013 #101

Good point. We should prohibit those things as well. denverbill Sep 2013 #79

"Arrest them and throw them in jail." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #82

When they are caught mugging, raping, violent cretining, or carrying a gun. denverbill Sep 2013 #89

So, carrying a gun is equal to rape. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #90

Yes carrying a gun is equal to rape. That's exactly what I said. denverbill Sep 2013 #91

You wrote, "When they are caught mugging, raping, violent cretining, or carrying a gun." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #93

Because it is against the law for felons to own guns. denverbill Sep 2013 #96

If your carrying comment was confined exclusively to duly convicted felons carrying guns Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #97

They are almost always "caught" a significant amount of time after doing those things. rrneck Sep 2013 #95

If they are already in progress, a gun isn't going to help much. denverbill Sep 2013 #98

You got a better idea? nt rrneck Sep 2013 #99

The vast majority never screw up. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #81

Why are all gunowners so sensitive? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #2

sensitive? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #5

You're on a message board. Getting called something you're not is inevitable. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #27

So you are a gunhumper. n/t oneshooter Sep 2013 #109

I own a number of guns. Always have, and have made no secret of it anywhere. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #3

so you actually are scared? that's why you have guns then... GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #9

Huh? Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #19

People lump you with killers because you have a gun? hrmjustin Sep 2013 #4

we must call the cops on him because he has a gun! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #6

Well that must hurt. I am sorry people treat you like that. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #14

well it doesn't hurt because at the end of the day GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #18

Then do the right thing, get rid of your gun. bowens43 Sep 2013 #7

and what would that accomplish? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #10

Question here? atreides1 Sep 2013 #11

because guns are bad and if you have one you are bad. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #13

You need more target practice. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #21

your concern is noted. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #22

So, then, HALO141 Sep 2013 #24

Yes. Exactly. You guys are all just like Rosa Parks. You're all persecuted and it's just the same Squinch Sep 2013 #61

Reductio ad absurdum HALO141 Sep 2013 #76

I think the person indulging in "reductio ad absurdum" thucythucy Sep 2013 #78

No. HALO141 Sep 2013 #112

Right. And someone thucythucy Sep 2013 #118

You mean the way the NRA and friends always equate themselves with civil rights icons? Yes. It is. Squinch Sep 2013 #104

As the saying goes... HALO141 Sep 2013 #15

That will be the old "lie down with dogs" conundrum. It's the lack of support from Squinch Sep 2013 #16

So I must do what those who don't agree with me want to make them happy GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #20

Do whatever you like, but then don't complain when people have an opinion about it. Squinch Sep 2013 #23

The definition of insanity HALO141 Sep 2013 #31

Yadda yadda yadda Squinch Sep 2013 #33

Got no answer, huh? HALO141 Sep 2013 #46

Blah, blah, blah. NRA talking point, NRA talking point, NRA talking point. Squinch Sep 2013 #49

Verbal tic, verbal tic, verbal tic. Straw Man Sep 2013 #64

So we should stop with those pesky laws against murder and rape? jeff47 Sep 2013 #66

but he could have been committed gejohnston Sep 2013 #69

Probably not. jeff47 Sep 2013 #72

yes Reagan messed it up but gejohnston Sep 2013 #74

Reading. It's a good idea. jeff47 Sep 2013 #86

Of course not. HALO141 Sep 2013 #75

Registration would likely go a long way to lessening gun crimes...combined w/UBC, would help jmg257 Sep 2013 #100

Exactly how would registration reduce gun crimes? Jenoch Sep 2013 #108

By reducing the number of illegal guns, jmg257 Sep 2013 #110

I think the word you were looking for is fewer. Jenoch Sep 2013 #111

"Reducing" equals "fewer". not sure what you meant there. Anyway... jmg257 Sep 2013 #113

Oh, I get it now... HALO141 Sep 2013 #114

What? Not sure what you are saying here. Sorry - missed this one...nt jmg257 Sep 2013 #116

It's a South Park reference HALO141 Sep 2013 #117

I'm mad at you? I called you names?? I made snarky remarks??? jmg257 Sep 2013 #121

Interesting argument. thucythucy Sep 2013 #77

What we should consider HALO141 Sep 2013 #115

Absolutely. But one can also consider thucythucy Sep 2013 #119

Get used to it. rrneck Sep 2013 #25

So sell your gun and you won't have to deal with it coldmountain Sep 2013 #26

Or I could tell you that I don'y actually own guns. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #38

You should blame your intransigent fellow upaloopa Sep 2013 #28

But, if you are not a person who would kill- then why do you need a gun? notadmblnd Sep 2013 #29

Someone started a thread here with Jenoch Sep 2013 #41

Someone in England once said that Irish babies should be cooked as food. Your point? Squinch Sep 2013 #54

Let explain it to you, be sure to read this slowly. Jenoch Sep 2013 #63

Well, can clearly see why you need a gun jeff47 Sep 2013 #67

Huh? Jenoch Sep 2013 #68

Someone said something mean on the Internet jeff47 Sep 2013 #71

You really should work on your reading Jenoch Sep 2013 #73

Yeah. There's still no point in there. Squinch Sep 2013 #103

The someone on DU who posted the letter said they agreed with it. Jenoch Sep 2013 #107

That's a good point. I legally carry a concealed handgun as open carry is illegal in my state. ... spin Sep 2013 #43

Thanks for answering but it was the OP that I wanted to hear from notadmblnd Sep 2013 #44

I don't have a choice in Florida. Open carry is illegal in public places. ... spin Sep 2013 #45

If I am walking down the street, how can I distinguish responsible vs. irresponsible gun owners? LonePirate Sep 2013 #32

I own guns, and don't feel at all like you do. Why do you feel so persecuted? enki23 Sep 2013 #35

I think I love you. Squinch Sep 2013 #36

I envy you your eloquence and applaud your reasoning! nt thereismore Sep 2013 #48

I think a 20 round magazine limit would be acceptable to most gun owners. ... spin Sep 2013 #50

So you admit to being a gun humper. n/t oneshooter Sep 2013 #62

well then, maybe get rid of the gun and you won't be a bad guy! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #51

Own it and keep it in your OWN home HockeyMom Sep 2013 #53

What rights are being affected? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #55

How is that affecting OTHER PEOPLE'S right? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #102

You have to ignore the 2A regressives. ileus Sep 2013 #56

While you may have a duty to protect your minor children, HockeyMom Sep 2013 #57

Well of course my wife also carries, but if it's all the same to you ileus Sep 2013 #58

So don't be a bad guy Prophet 451 Sep 2013 #59

Anyone doing such stereotyping is a simpleton. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #70

Just be comfortable in the fact you KNOW you're one of the good guys. ileus Sep 2013 #92

thank you! GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #94

GalaxyHunter has left the building. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #105

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.... Squinch Sep 2013 #106

You think you are sick of it ... Try being a woman and having to put up with all the sexist crap Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #120