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bossy22

(3,547 posts)
30. stastically you shouldn't be
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:20 PM
Mar 2013
It has to do with knowing several people like this well, and personally, over a significant period of time. I have heard the pornographic glee with which they describe the optimum mix of Black Talons, Hydra-Shocks, AP, tracers hot-loaded in the XL clip of their Magnum.


First off, there are always outliers. There are doctors out there that are licensed who really have no clue what they are doing or make mistakes that even a 2nd year medical student wouldn't make. Secondly, I don't know who you talked to, but no one uses black talon (they haven't been made since the early 1990's IIRC), Tracers (would destroy the gun barrel) and Hot-loaded (could blow-up the gun) in their defense guns. Again, ofcourse there probably is someone out there who does but they are not the norm- just like there are people who use cars to race- but there isn't a large movement to restrict all automobiles to 85 mph top speed.

And there are too many private arsenals and armories out there poorly secured, and endangering both the public and fire/ems/hazmat/police who may encounter them when their integrity is compromised. How may THOUSAND rounds do you need to keep on hand? There were once 30,000 rounds in my house, and a seriously disturbed former co-worker admits to 16,000


This is a difficult question to answer and one the media likes to throw around. They like to use big numbers like "he had over a thousand rounds of ammunition at home". The truth is that it really depends on the ammunition. For example 22 L.R. (A very very common calibre- if not the most common) is primarily sold in packages of 500 rounds. You might think that is alot, or that such a package must be quite large, but in reality it is the same size as a standard brick on the outside of your house (which is why they are commonly referred to as a "brick of 22&quot . So if you stick 2 bricks side by side of each other, thats what 1000 rounds would look like. It's really not that impressive right? Personally I have about 4000 rounds of 22lr, which fits nicely into a small shelf in my gun safe. Many times gun owners will buy in bulk for savings.

Also, as a member of the emergency services (fire and EMS), the thing i'm most afraid of is not bullets, but cars. More firefighters and EMTS are killed by cars then are killed by bullets. I get pissed when gun control proponents use us to promote their goals. I've heard everything from, "having large stores of ammunition in a house could kill firefighters in a house fire" (though in reality, unless all that ammunition is loaded into a gun, all it does is make a loud pop- nothing more. The movies over-dramatize it.) to "assault weapons need to be banned because of what happened to the firefighters upstate" (which would have happened even if the guy had used grandpas hunting rifle, might have been a bit worse because most hunting calibres are much stronger than a 223 and would have made swiss cheese out of car doors and other places one would hide for cover)
the fear being that they won't be able to get one bossy22 Mar 2013 #1
+1 raidert05 Mar 2013 #4
thus creating a self fulfilling prophecy frylock Mar 2013 #7
Yet, there are ebbs in gun purchases, prob. when there us little talk of bans. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #17
post assumes they would then misuse them. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #42
+1 Pullo Mar 2013 #6
People own firearms for many reasons av8r1998 Mar 2013 #2
Dude, look in a mirror Mopar151 Mar 2013 #9
its not about NEED bossy22 Mar 2013 #20
I am fearful of those who carry loaded firearms in a public place. Mopar151 Mar 2013 #26
stastically you shouldn't be bossy22 Mar 2013 #30
"I am fearful..." Of course you are. The vast majority of the gun control issue is all fear-based. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #41
If you think those are sane.responsible gun owners...... Mopar151 Mar 2013 #43
Cycle of fear seems to leave out governments' efforts to ban Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #3
Pretty thin gruel rrneck Mar 2013 #5
I've never been scared of any firearm I've bought. ileus Mar 2013 #8
Good tools...... n/t Mopar151 Mar 2013 #10
They are tools. nt oldhippie Mar 2013 #14
The cause of gun control would be better served by sarisataka Mar 2013 #11
Assault rifles, a compulsion to warriorhood jimmy the one Mar 2013 #12
Interesting analysis sarisataka Mar 2013 #13
I tend to think the guns being 'vetted' by the military allows a buyer jmg257 Mar 2013 #15
I think what you say is a true perception sarisataka Mar 2013 #16
Fear and pre-occupation with sexual identity is an obsession with gun-controllers... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #18
"I'll take economy and flexibility any day" Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #25
In another time on DU I would have a chance of successfully alerting... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #28
Except the OP is about the cycle of fear that drives folk to buy assautlt rifles Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #33
Thats why police need them. beevul Mar 2013 #39
Police do not need them, except in special circumstances Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #44
I still cannot believe you wish to disarm LEOs. Jenoch Mar 2013 #47
Re-read your statement, tack. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #45
Umm, the AR-15 absolutely dominates centerfire target competition in this country... benEzra Mar 2013 #50
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #52
and this is why the debate goes nowhere bossy22 Mar 2013 #21
moi l'raison jimmy the one Mar 2013 #22
assume bossy22 Mar 2013 #24
Wow! A veritable air- burst of crap! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #29
And to think I wasted my time at the VA for a psych eval sarisataka Mar 2013 #32
ruger mortis jimmy the one Mar 2013 #36
Perhaps tone does not come through ... sarisataka Mar 2013 #37
Pop psychology: The cheap seats of intellectual inquiry. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #46
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #53
Whenever people react based on emotion rather than fact.... av8r1998 Mar 2013 #23
A perfect case in point. benEzra Mar 2013 #48
mosin nagant, a good pole vault jimmy the one Mar 2013 #49
Finn M39 on a 1905 Izhevsk receiver still bearing the Romanov crest, benEzra Mar 2013 #51
the romanovs & otma jimmy the one Mar 2013 #55
Yeah, I call bullshit rl6214 Mar 2013 #19
Of course you do. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #27
That's funny, I always thought that the cycle of fear drove efforts to ban guns. kudzu22 Mar 2013 #31
There is no effort to disarm the nation. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #54
My kids still love shooting our AR's....even my 8&10 yo's know ileus Mar 2013 #38
Perhaps you could comment on... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #35
Fear sells. Always has. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #58
Fear sells to the fearful. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #61
I wonder how important it is Jenoch Mar 2013 #40
Apparently, it is not important to those who don't wish to learn about themselves. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #59
what kind of mirror is it? gejohnston Mar 2013 #60
It was a rhetorical question. Jenoch Mar 2013 #62
Message auto-removed NCState Mar 2013 #56
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #57
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