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SecularMotion

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Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:48 AM Feb 2013

The Science of Panic: Why the NRA Is Wrong About Defensive Gun Use [View all]

Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, released an op-ed for the Daily Caller on Wednesday, February 13, to defend the pro-gun position, listing hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, gangs, lone criminals, and my personal favorite, terrorists, as threats Americans are "sure to face -- not just maybe." This use of fear to implement a political agenda is nothing new to America's right wing. From the infamous Southern Strategy to Milton Friedman and George W. Bush passing laissez faire reforms in New Orleans following Katrina, conservatives have unabashedly manipulated their ranks because scared people are obedient. Studies indicate that people who have larger right amygdalas, the part of of the brain associated with sensitivity to fear, tend to be more conservative. It is no surprise, then, that this tactic is so effective. Now, I find myself wondering where Mr. LaPierre lives that he encounters each of these threats, but more importantly I question his underlying assumption that armed civilians are competent enough in crisis scenarios to ward off or kill an attacker.

Though the scenario plays out in virtually every western and action film ever made, good guys stopping bad guys with guns is a rare occurrence as we know from reports from the U.S. Department of Justice's National Institute of Justice and the Harvard Injury Control Policy Research Center's David Hemenway. Every year there are even a few token incidents in the news of this occurring, but for most part these events are uncommon. And there is a good reason for why that is: Human physiology.

When people are put in a crisis situation the fight-or-flight response is triggered and the sympathetic nervous system kicks into action involuntarily. Stress hormones like epinephrine are released en masse into our blood stream increasing arterial pressure and blood flow to major muscle masses, dilating the blood vessels. This boosts our gross motor skills. Still some blood vessels constrict which reduces blood flow to the ends of appendages to limit injuries. The heart rate increases. A report from Killology Research Group, that studies the science of combat, explains that "extreme SNS activation will cause catastrophic failure of the visual, cognitive, and motor control systems." Tunnel vision and auditory exclusion impair our ability to take in our surroundings, we lose complex motor control (meaning we fumble performing anything but the most basic movements) and irrationality and confusion prevent sound action.

This is precisely why police officers and soldiers require constant training in high stress situations to develop muscle memory to overcome these physiological barriers to rational decision-making. Even then, prolonged exposure can result in post-traumatic stress disorder. The argument that armed civilians are just as capable as law enforcement at stopping crime is essentially the same as saying "police don't need training."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/nra-guns-fear_b_2703118.html
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Then why do people successfully defend themselves iiibbb Feb 2013 #1
"a gun in the hands if someone who hasn't thought it through is less likely to help" safeinOhio Feb 2013 #3
Not 99% of the gun owners I know. holdencaufield Feb 2013 #5
That is BS iiibbb Feb 2013 #10
I agree gopiscrap Sep 2013 #46
What - Good Guys With Guns Is Not The Answer - But Fox News Told Me So cantbeserious Feb 2013 #2
What is your solution to BAD guys with guns? holdencaufield Feb 2013 #4
Same Solution - Outlaw All Guns - Very Punitive Measures For Violators cantbeserious Feb 2013 #20
Of course this includes all LEOs. oneshooter Feb 2013 #22
Not Necessarily cantbeserious Feb 2013 #27
So you would have them armed on duty. oneshooter Feb 2013 #38
Now your username is beginning to make sense holdencaufield Feb 2013 #28
You are on to something iiibbb Feb 2013 #37
So you disagree with other controllers who say "No one wants to take your guns away?" Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #40
Just outlaw hurting other people, then people won't need guns for defense. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #60
Why are you watching Faux Snooze? gopiscrap Sep 2013 #47
Never Do - Do Not Own A Television cantbeserious Sep 2013 #48
Oh thank God, I thought you might have gone over to the dark side!!! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #49
The only criminals that have trained with their weapons safeinOhio Feb 2013 #6
What this individual is ignorant of is that gangs are known to have members enlist in the military.. Clames Feb 2013 #8
Like these guys? iiibbb Feb 2013 #12
And what about this claim that gangs and bad guys are getting "training" makes me want to be unarmed iiibbb Feb 2013 #15
I have several firearms as options... Clames Feb 2013 #21
Well, this presumably also applies to the bad guy krispos42 Feb 2013 #7
I wonder if criminals and attackers are ever 'put into a crisis situation'. jmg257 Feb 2013 #9
like this? iiibbb Feb 2013 #13
Yep - I guess they are! Sure looked like much more fright and flight instead of fight to me. nt jmg257 Feb 2013 #14
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!! Zoeisright Feb 2013 #23
Keep on believing what?? jmg257 Feb 2013 #24
what are you saying? bossy22 Feb 2013 #25
Whatever he's saying - he's definitely getting a kick out of it! nt jmg257 Feb 2013 #35
Well, he did mention toadstools. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #41
Aahhh...that could explain the unexplained laughter. Hope he had a nice trip! jmg257 Feb 2013 #42
What ARE you -On- about? Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #50
Note that this is from Blagman's blog, and has nothing to do with science..nt ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #11
Wrong. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #16
This guy should have trained more iiibbb Feb 2013 #17
What is your lifetime chance of being targeted by a criminal? GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #18
Lifetime.... 1 in 200 chance to die at another's hands. iiibbb Feb 2013 #19
You must not be from Chicago. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #26
my dad isn't iiibbb Feb 2013 #34
Homicide is related to temperature? holdencaufield Feb 2013 #30
When it's not cold, criminals are more willing to loiter perhaps iiibbb Feb 2013 #31
If you lick your gun in Canada -- your tongue will freeze to it holdencaufield Feb 2013 #32
only if you keep it in a cold place winkwink saynomore iiibbb Feb 2013 #33
Does sort of make you think climate is part of it... EX500rider Sep 2013 #61
Pistol ammo is nearly $1 a round holdencaufield Feb 2013 #29
Thanks for offering but I'll keep my ability to defend my family and home. ileus Feb 2013 #36
It might be hard to keep your stuff together HillbillyBob Feb 2013 #39
10% technique 90% Attitude HGT Sep 2013 #43
The "Killology Institute?" Cute. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #44
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #45
This is actually an argument to train more. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #51
Aaah, that's the catch! DonP Sep 2013 #52
I have noted that particular Catch-22 in discussions before. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #53
I agree that the bar should be raised for carry permits. SecularMotion Sep 2013 #57
I didn't speak to a bar high/low. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #58
This demonstrates the need for repeated, high-quality practice. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #54
A few months ago a video was posted here multiple times SheilaT Sep 2013 #55
You mean the one... beevul Sep 2013 #59
what--a paranoiac, corporate-concocted worldview with strong racist overtones MisterP Sep 2013 #56
That's why you train train train... ileus Sep 2013 #62
Keep practicing SecularMotion Sep 2013 #63
So.... HGT Oct 2013 #64
Good citizens have a duty to be beaten, assaulted, robbed and murdered. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #65
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