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Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
21. So boring
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:24 AM
Sep 2014

So Larry Derfner, the unapologetic left wing journalist who was actually fired from haaretz for his article empathizing with Hamas' attacks on Israel is IYO implying that the term genocide is only applicable when the victims are Jews? Because anyone who disagrees with abbas' description clearly abides by this specific, racist ideology of yours. An ideology that I've only ever seen voiced as an accusation, never (nor anything remotely similar) as an affirmation.

It's telling that all of your criticisms require vastly deviating from the actual statements made by your target. I've never seen you make an honest rebuttal to anyone's actual statement. Your arguments hinge on drawing extremely extrapolated distortions, straw men; that don't exist in the real world.

Through these fabrications you tip your own hand though. Even a journalist renown for his commitment to peace and progressivism is reamed for his obscene views, "only violence against Jews can qualify as genocide, to reinforce Jews' perceived status as eternal victims."

It's hateful accusations like this that give us a clear peek behind the veil of many self-proclaimed "leftist anti-zionists" such as yourself, revealing an ideology that's neither leftist, nor progressive. A little too much so in your case to be believed, really. Larry Derfner has already more than proven his progressive political commitment. Your knee jerk response attacking him for repugnant views, views he came nowhere near to espousing, comes off less like real criticism and more like a desperate fishing expedition... Hoping to snag a "zionist" to troll with hate-speech, and increasingly blatant bigotry.

For the record, it's not the political views you post that mark you as a troll/possible bigot. I don't think they're actually beliefs you hold. Rather, they're simply bait, taken less and less often, provoking ever grosser posts from you in hopes of a bite.

So, are Israel supporters just easy/fun targets, or are you really as deeply hateful of Jewish people as your posts would imply? I'd normally wager that you're just a trolly kid, but the amount of research and effort you've put into this would imply otherwise.

If you do, somehow, actually believe the stuff you post, then you're packing some serious stormfront level hate under that steel plate denial of yours.

The crime that dare not speak its name? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #1
Only Jews ? King_David Sep 2014 #3
Seems that's what the author is implying, yes. Scootaloo Sep 2014 #4
You become very bold in expressing your views King_David Sep 2014 #5
Whatever that means Scootaloo Sep 2014 #8
The intent behind the genocide accusation is to equate Israel with Nazis.... shira Sep 2014 #9
Well, no, it's not. Genocide is not exclusive to Nazis and Jews are not its exclusive victims Scootaloo Sep 2014 #11
Of course not King_David Sep 2014 #12
There were many Genocides and you know it. bravenak Sep 2014 #13
Excuse me, you aint no lefty in my book and with that post not sure who you think you are? King_David Sep 2014 #15
I never see you statnd up against racial discrimination here at home. bravenak Sep 2014 #17
TLDR King_David Sep 2014 #19
I know. bravenak Sep 2014 #20
You should have rateyes Oct 2014 #108
Doubt it King_David Oct 2014 #109
Yeah, really busy getting skewered for rateyes Oct 2014 #110
. King_David Oct 2014 #111
That reminds me, rateyes Oct 2014 #112
Sorry, right-wingers, but King David was gay King_David Oct 2014 #113
I think he may have been a bisexual, considering his relationship with rateyes Oct 2014 #114
Well I chose the Monikor King_David Oct 2014 #115
Well, he had an eye for the ladies too rateyes Oct 2014 #116
The bible story is not so interesting to me, King_David Oct 2014 #117
It's interesting how readily you make up antisemitic bullshit then try to claim other people said it Scootaloo Sep 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Sep 2014 #41
Since you used the sarcasm thingy... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #62
I definitly did not mean anything you said there , wow King_David Sep 2014 #71
Why did you use the sarcasm tag?... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #73
Because I was being sarcastic King_David Sep 2014 #77
Well then, I'll repeat my original question... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #79
I don't feel like discussing Jewish religious philosophy King_David Sep 2014 #80
If you were truly being sarcastic... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #81
I find this topic boring King_David Sep 2014 #82
You started this conversation... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #86
Yes I think we all seem it before King_David Sep 2014 #88
Seriously?... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #89
You know I left out another factoid for you that's bound to get you even more excited: King_David Sep 2014 #90
And, again I'll ask... TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #92
Well yeah, it is, considering that those godwinizing Israel.... shira Sep 2014 #29
Plenty of other nations are noted as having comitted genocide, Shira Scootaloo Sep 2014 #40
Unhinged Israel bashers equating Israel with the Nazis.... shira Sep 2014 #44
Please tell my you understand that "genocide" is not something that only the Nazis did. DanTex Sep 2014 #47
Please tell me that you DIDN'T read the OP FBaggins Sep 2014 #48
By "nonsensical strawman" I assume you mean this: DanTex Sep 2014 #49
Nope FBaggins Sep 2014 #50
It's also a very clear ongoing accusation that people who criticize Israel are anti-semitic. DanTex Sep 2014 #51
No it's not oberliner Sep 2014 #53
How many accusations of anti-semitism are there in this thread alone? DanTex Sep 2014 #54
Here's the distinction oberliner Sep 2014 #59
There are distinctions, for sure. DanTex Sep 2014 #72
People definitely throw the word Nazi around casually oberliner Sep 2014 #87
Another example is the OP "anti-Zionism is anti-semitism" DanTex Sep 2014 #55
See my post above oberliner Sep 2014 #61
Try changing the minority group in question to something else and you'll understand FBaggins Sep 2014 #70
OK, let's go with black people. DanTex Sep 2014 #76
Of course, but we're dealing with Israel bashers.... shira Sep 2014 #64
Again with the unwarranted assumptions. DanTex Sep 2014 #67
Get back to me once u do some research on Abbas' holocaust denial. n/t shira Sep 2014 #95
I just did. nt DanTex Oct 2014 #105
But we're talking about an accusation of genocide, not an accusation of naziism Scootaloo Sep 2014 #99
Pay attention. The same putzes claiming genocide equate Israel to Nazi Germany. shira Sep 2014 #101
except that's not the topic, Shira. Scootaloo Sep 2014 #102
Bibi, the prized putz..as worthless as they come: Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #103
So the Armenian Genocide equates the Turks with the Nazis? intaglio Sep 2014 #26
It's Jew baiting. No other nation comes close today.... shira Sep 2014 #28
No other nation except the Ukraine, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, Cuba ... intaglio Sep 2014 #52
Have you seen a lot of comparisons of Zimbabwe to Nazi Germany? oberliner Sep 2014 #60
Yes, but than I read UK national newspapers intaglio Sep 2014 #74
Fair enough oberliner Sep 2014 #85
Read some of the posts in this thread ... n/t intaglio Sep 2014 #91
I'm not responsible for what other people post oberliner Sep 2014 #93
Have you sorted out in your mind what's going on in the IP ? King_David Sep 2014 #96
Despite Haaretz being a nominally "liberal" paper intaglio Sep 2014 #98
"It does have a known pro-Government and hence anti-Palestinian bias." King_David Sep 2014 #100
Israel bashers do not compare those countries to Nazi Germany.... shira Sep 2014 #63
I would use a rude word to describe that nonsense intaglio Sep 2014 #75
Shira, allow me to introduce you to the internet. DanTex Sep 2014 #84
You miss the point. It's that Israel bashers only equate Israel to Nazis.... shira Sep 2014 #94
You know Shira whosinpower1 Oct 2014 #106
Poor reading comprehension? FBaggins Sep 2014 #33
So boring Shaktimaan Sep 2014 #21
Correction : .... Israeli Sep 2014 #24
+1 King_David Sep 2014 #36
You really are. Scootaloo Sep 2014 #97
Typical. Shaktimaan Oct 2014 #118
Does Larry want his old Jpost job back? Bet it paid lots better than +972 does azurnoir Sep 2014 #2
Ha ha hilarious how the mighty fall from grace, King_David Sep 2014 #6
Care to explain this nonsense post of yours ? Israeli Sep 2014 #25
Don't forget, I posted Amira Hass this week in addition to Derfner. n/t shira Sep 2014 #27
So ? .... Israeli Sep 2014 #30
brilliant.nt whosinpower1 Oct 2014 #107
Oh the post is clear King_David Sep 2014 #34
Not to me its not ... Israeli Sep 2014 #35
How can it be misspelled if it's written in English King_David Sep 2014 #39
depends King_David.... Israeli Sep 2014 #45
It's good to welcome immigrants and make sure they assimilate King_David Sep 2014 #46
Ah .... Israeli Sep 2014 #68
Well I don't have a problem with what Derfners written here, King_David Sep 2014 #43
me too azurnoir Sep 2014 #65
Does "ethnic cleansing" sound better than genocide? procon Sep 2014 #7
I've No Great Love For The Israelis, BUT Vogon_Glory Sep 2014 #10
Th PA was under the boot heels of Israel and the US. bravenak Sep 2014 #14
The PA with their extreme right wing view of Gays, That extreme right wing regime ? nt King_David Sep 2014 #16
He asked where they were. bravenak Sep 2014 #18
Was it? Shaktimaan Sep 2014 #22
The PA did not and does not have the power. bravenak Sep 2014 #23
Nobody Is Asking For The PA To Perform The Normandy Landings BUT Vogon_Glory Sep 2014 #56
They also don't make statements about many things. bravenak Sep 2014 #57
That's No Excuse for Their Silence Vogon_Glory Sep 2014 #42
This was a bunch of bullshit. bravenak Sep 2014 #58
Just Because I Don't Like The Israelis Vogon_Glory Sep 2014 #66
I don't care whether you like the Israeli's or not. bravenak Sep 2014 #69
Larry Derfner should not be taken seriously on any subject oberliner Sep 2014 #31
Embarrassment to whom oberliner ? Israeli Sep 2014 #32
To whatever source decides to publish him oberliner Sep 2014 #38
Every time someone posts from 972 .... Israeli Sep 2014 #78
True oberliner Sep 2014 #83
Palestinian official likens Netanyahu to IS leader Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #104
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