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In reply to the discussion: Israel, the un-apartheid state – a comparison with Australia [View all]FarrenH
(768 posts)46. I've been trying to summarize it
otherwise my posts would be extremely long and they're already quite wordy. But stepping back from my admittedly too emotional tone and assuming you're asking in good faith, this document answers your question, and represents my view (oddly enough the HSRC website itself has an executive summary but no download link to the full report). It also addresses the "colonialism" charge, with ample reference to international law:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8wjYp5g27StVFphUnAzTWkyMGM/edit
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BDS would continue its actions against Israel even if it left the West Bank completely
oberliner
Aug 2013
#2
Am I to understand that before "Israeli-Only" roads, before the separation barrier.....
shira
Aug 2013
#23
60% borders are temporary. You're pro-occupation, against the IDF getting out.....
shira
Aug 2013
#74
The comparison requires a shallow understanding of both Israel and Apartheid
WatermelonRat
Aug 2013
#16
Is this true or not? Does Israel wish to maintain a Jewish demographic majority?
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#38
That was my point however you seemed 'upset' with another poster pointing it out
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#84
quote "It's like someone pointing out that France wants to maintain a French majority"
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#106
I can not answer without knowing your parameters pertaining to who is French n/t
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#108
th problem is that the area where these different laws are being enforced is not Israel
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#32
so your redefining apartheid to include applications that dont get "fair treatment"
pelsar
Aug 2013
#90
The International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid
FarrenH
Aug 2013
#47
you still can't find a non-Palestinian that has been sentenced by a military court?
shaayecanaan
Aug 2013
#86
thank you for admitting that non-Jewish Arab citizens of Israel are subject to different laws
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#96
it is quite true that non-Jewish citizens of Israel are subject to different laws than
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#103
No pelsar the immigration laws alone are all that is needed to show discrimination
azurnoir
Aug 2013
#105
so your 've redefined apartheid as discrimination based "citizenship and nationalism"
pelsar
Aug 2013
#116
The thing is, Israeli, I just don't understand how supposed Democrats or Liberals,
R. Daneel Olivaw
Aug 2013
#133
Most Dems and Liberals disagree with you. They must not be "real" Libs/Dems......
shira
Aug 2013
#144
Aloni is a politician. All politicians lie. Why do u worship a politician's every word?
shira
Aug 2013
#160
How dishonest can you get? So Israeli Arabs within settlements all around Jerusalem.....
shira
Sep 2013
#184
WHOOOOSH! That was the sound of Finkelstein's argument going totally over your head....
shira
Aug 2013
#147
Did you miss that you're not at all representative of most Libs/Dems on I/P? n/t
shira
Aug 2013
#149
So you did miss the first five minutes then...or ignored them outright. Pure Shira BS.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Aug 2013
#151
Well, now that you want to make this about Finkelstein....are you closer in opinion
shira
Aug 2013
#152
It again is about you and your hypocrisy, Shira. Again, major derp on your part.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Aug 2013
#153
Another evasion with nothing but smilies in response. Lemme know when you grow up. n/t
shira
Aug 2013
#154
I won't be able to communicate with you since you aren't trusted to be honest.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Aug 2013
#162