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Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
54. But do you apply this philosophy evenly?
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:59 PM
Mar 2013

The US has unfailingly, unswervingly, totally been completely on the side of the powerful in the Israel / Palestine conflict. Our role has amounted to stymieing all efforts to bring power to the powerless in this conflict, whether our role as invincible goalie in the UNSC

It's interesting because you are choosing to look at this exclusively through the lens of power dynamics. Since your methodology here looks at the differences of power between groups to determine who is good and who is bad to then develop its narrative, it must be open to changes in those power differences, right?

So when we talk about Israel at the UN, as opposed to Israel in the OPT, it isn't the powerful oppressor anymore. By any measure Israel is the oppressed victim of powerful interests at the UN. In those proceedings the US is protecting the powerless victim from far stronger forced seeking to further damage their target in any way possible.

Would you care to comment on this use of your unique sociological methodology? I would love to hear if you now place yourself in the category of one who sides with the oppressor, and if so is it an admission that you consider Israelis to be subhuman?

'vowing an "eternal" alliance with the Jewish entity' King_David Mar 2013 #1
No surprise, he has always made these remarks. It was stated in this group that Obama was a Zionist. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #2
Yep, seems like a huge difference, King_David Mar 2013 #5
LOL, yea, it is and you still have no such evdience he ever said that..although Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #7
I said that? King_David Mar 2013 #9
Sure: Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #12
You must have made a mistake with your link King_David Mar 2013 #14
No mistake on my part..it's there. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #15
Yes it's true they are King_David Mar 2013 #18
Oh for crying out loud. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #19
What do you think Zionism is? oberliner Mar 2013 #20
Oh please oberliner, save any lesson you imagine I may need about Zionism. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #24
Not a lesson, just a question oberliner Mar 2013 #43
I do not determine what Zionism means, do you have your own version, oberliner? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #45
The movement to establish and preserve a Jewish homeland. oberliner Mar 2013 #46
So you do have your own version, ok. There exists no one united across the board ideology regarding Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #60
Where'd I say :"he ever claimed he was a Zionist. " King_David Mar 2013 #23
I believe you were clear in your last post..uh, fantasy. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #26
Obama is a Zionist ... King_David Mar 2013 #28
He never has made the statement he was a Zionist. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #31
Well then again I ask you to link up where I posted that King_David Mar 2013 #33
I already did in your earlier post..in this thread. And it's hee hee, not he he. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #35
Here's your link in full , point it out to us all please, King_David Mar 2013 #36
Then read it, again. You're saying Obama is a Zionist even though he never said such a thing, Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #37
Is it possible for someone who is not a Zionist to say: King_David Mar 2013 #38
When you find the quote, similar to Biden's, post it. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #39
I have no need to go look for such a quote King_David Mar 2013 #40
Uh huh, you do that, ignore the quote...if you ever find one. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #41
Agreed. No one but a Zionist would say that. n/t shira Mar 2013 #42
Exactly King_David Mar 2013 #44
Bullshit title demwing Mar 2013 #3
What is the truth ? King_David Mar 2013 #4
so a question how does that translate ie what exactly does that mean "support for Israel" ? azurnoir Mar 2013 #6
The USA is Israel's greatest friend and supporter King_David Mar 2013 #8
I can't believe the amount of Obama hatred this trip is engendering in DUers Mosby Mar 2013 #10
Many Marxist, communists and socialists that post here don't like Obama..really? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #13
I'm a Liberal, what are you? Mosby Mar 2013 #17
A racist? You're kidding, right? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #22
Maybe I didn't make it clear Mosby Mar 2013 #27
I don't share the opinion with you he is referring to Obama as a bigot. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #34
And I explain why to Cali, as well Scootaloo Mar 2013 #49
you make it easy on yourself... pelsar Mar 2013 #50
I did not accuse Obama of racism. I accused him of moral cowardice and complicity with oppression. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #56
i believe you wrote "subhuman" you were very clear. pelsar Mar 2013 #57
+100% mazzarro Mar 2013 #51
But do you apply this philosophy evenly? Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #54
Again, you offer very bad arguments. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #55
Bravo. Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #58
Are you insinuating, Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #59
+1 King_David Mar 2013 #32
oh so settlements are an internal matter I see thanks azurnoir Mar 2013 #11
I am in favor of a disengagement similar to that of the Geneva accord . King_David Mar 2013 #16
ya that seems to have gotten to be a popular thing to say azurnoir Mar 2013 #21
Nov 29. ? King_David Mar 2013 #25
yep on 11/29/12: Palestinians win implicit U.N. recognition of sovereign state azurnoir Mar 2013 #29
OIC King_David Mar 2013 #30
To paraphrase Chuck Schumer... Scootaloo Mar 2013 #47
and well how can they be settlers azurnoir Mar 2013 #48
It's all a simple "debate " in DU for you.. King_David Mar 2013 #52
That's because the source doesn't use the word Israel oberliner Mar 2013 #53
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