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oberliner

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Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:48 PM Nov 2012

Britain ready to back Palestinian statehood at UN [View all]

Britain is prepared to back a key vote recognising Palestinian statehood at the United Nations if Mahmoud Abbas pledges not to pursue Israel for war crimes and to resume peace talks.

Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority, has called for Britain's backing in part because of its historic responsibility for Palestine. The government has previously refused, citing strong US and Israeli objections and fears of long-term damage to prospects for negotiations.

On Monday night, the government signalled it would change tack and vote yes if the Palestinians modified their application, which is to be debated by the UN general assembly in New York later this week. As a "non-member state", Palestine would have the same status as the Vatican.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/27/uk-ready-to-back-palestine-statehood

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Good. It's long past time. PDJane Nov 2012 #1
What about Israel's water problems? oberliner Nov 2012 #3
I think that, instead of stealing the water table to use profligately, PDJane Nov 2012 #6
Maybe Israelis and Palestinians can work together oberliner Nov 2012 #7
Such a settlement can't be reached through negotiations with Likud, though. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #8
Following your logic oberliner Nov 2012 #10
Sadly, at this point 2...it needs to be done through the UN Ken Burch Nov 2012 #11
The UN? oberliner Nov 2012 #13
It could be something like binding arbitration in a labor dispute. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #14
That seems less likely than cutting a deal with Netanyahu oberliner Nov 2012 #29
How could this possibly work? aranthus Nov 2012 #31
How can you say there's NO neutral aribitrator? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #33
Because unlike you, I'm a realist. aranthus Nov 2012 #34
False in everything. aranthus Nov 2012 #30
No one is asking Israel to negotiate as losers...just as equals...just in a spirit of mutual respect Ken Burch Nov 2012 #37
It's not about saying "we won" aranthus Nov 2012 #41
It wouldn't harm anything to let the old folks come back Ken Burch Nov 2012 #42
Israel has let people come back, but admitting wrongdoing isn't going to happen. aranthus Nov 2012 #43
well one of our Israeli posters has said that Israel is building desalination plants azurnoir Nov 2012 #16
Self-deleted........... kayecy Nov 2012 #17
I hope this comes to pass, and that Hamas will stand down as well. teddy51 Nov 2012 #2
If this comes to pass what reason would Hamas have to stand down? n/t aranthus Nov 2012 #4
I can't give you a reason why they will, but I can give a number of reasons why teddy51 Nov 2012 #5
The best thing of all would be for Hamas and Likud-Beitenyu Ken Burch Nov 2012 #9
Agreed! teddy51 Nov 2012 #15
I certainly do not support Likud but your constant attempts to Dick Dastardly Nov 2012 #18
Likud is the lineal descendant of the Irgun(the terrorist wing of the Revisionist movement) Ken Burch Nov 2012 #19
Why stop there? Why not argue Likud/Irgun is no better than the Nazi party? shira Nov 2012 #21
I would never compare Likud to the Nazis. You know that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #22
What are you opposed to if you cannot even acknowledge what Hamas does? n/t shira Nov 2012 #23
What difference does it make whether I go through it point by point or not? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #24
Hamas sees people like yourself as supporters... shira Nov 2012 #36
You actually think Hamas cares about what I think. That's sad, really. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #39
They care about their support system. You're part of that.... shira Nov 2012 #44
You know perfectly well that none of those groups support Hamas. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #47
Then why do they do Hamas' hasbara? Why do they ignore/deny, explain away.... shira Nov 2012 #48
Yes, but think like Hamas for a minute. Why stand down? aranthus Nov 2012 #32
Well, actually, in China the Communists DID say that Capitalism is not a bad thing. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #35
Ken, you're the one arguing Arabs are constitutionally incapable of making changes... shira Nov 2012 #38
I said, Hamas, not "Arabs". Ken Burch Nov 2012 #40
Israel has every right to make moral demands of Hamas and Fatah.... shira Nov 2012 #45
"If Mahmoud Abbas pledges not to pursue Israel for war crimes..." Interesting that, indeed. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #12
There would need to be compensation and an admission that wrongs were done Ken Burch Nov 2012 #20
why with friends like the UK what more can the Palestinians ask? n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #25
LOL. bemildred Nov 2012 #26
Friends? oberliner Nov 2012 #27
Iran has backed the PA/PLO do tell azurnoir Nov 2012 #28
A NATION CHALLENGED: TERRORISM; A Secret Iran-Arafat Connection Is Seen Fueling the Mideast Fire shira Nov 2012 #46
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