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In reply to the discussion: German Scientific Study Predicts Global Cooling till 2030 [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)25. Maybe you haven't kept up with the news - the integration of Russian data
into the Hadley Centre data has now shown 2010 to have been the hottest year ever: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11279693
This is in some ways not surprising - the NASA figures had used the temperatures from stations near the missing areas to make their estimates for polar regions, while the Hadley Centre had just said "we won't include those areas at all":
NASA: Why does GISS get a different answer than the Met Office Hadley Centre [a UK climate research group that works jointly with the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia to perform an analysis of global temperatures]?
Schmidt: It's mainly related to the way the weather station data is extrapolated. The Hadley Centre uses basically the same data sets as GISS, for example, but it doesn't fill in large areas of the Arctic and Antarctic regions where fixed monitoring stations don't exist. Instead of leaving those areas out from our analysis, you can use numbers from the nearest available stations, as long as they are within 1,200 kilometers. Overall, this gives the GISS product more complete coverage of the polar areas.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20100121b/
Schmidt: It's mainly related to the way the weather station data is extrapolated. The Hadley Centre uses basically the same data sets as GISS, for example, but it doesn't fill in large areas of the Arctic and Antarctic regions where fixed monitoring stations don't exist. Instead of leaving those areas out from our analysis, you can use numbers from the nearest available stations, as long as they are within 1,200 kilometers. Overall, this gives the GISS product more complete coverage of the polar areas.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20100121b/
NASA has already said 2010 was hotter than 1998; now the Hadley Centre, with this newly available data, agrees on that. NASA's use of the temperatures from close to the missing areas has been justified.
So Landscheidt's predictions, made a decade or more ago, are looking wrong already.
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An astrologer who thought cosmic rays were responsible for Stalin and Hitler's power.
greyl
Mar 2012
#1
Another ice age? I predict lots of famine from lack of sun. Oh, well, you can't win.
freshwest
Mar 2012
#4
Maybe you haven't kept up with the news - the integration of Russian data
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2012
#25
Of all the stupid denier crap, that is one of the most uninformed examples there is
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2012
#29