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In reply to the discussion: DU: Beware the Water Desalination Movement and it's Lies. [View all]Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)59. So we should cease farming and put several million people out of work,
and jerk the food California grows off the market, which would cause a massive increase in prices everywhere else in the country. Most of the food we grow is exported through out the US.
You also might what to add Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico to that decision to strip people of water. The whole South West is suffering the same weather problems and shortage of water.
Also, Texas , Colorado, and Kansas are suffering.
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There's a big push for that in California, while our good, clean water is sucked up by Nestle
arcane1
Apr 2015
#1
Lets take California as a start. there are 38.4 million residents who live there.
CentralMass
Apr 2015
#2
You know I do think that's what he is suggesting. I missed it until you pointed it out. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#38
Desal is a scheme to preserve our wasteful way of life. New tech or not, it's a loser.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#10
They technically, environmentally, and regulatorily are different substances, yes.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#75
"if you put hundreds or thousands of them along the coast, you will disrupt the entire coast ecolog"
pbmus
Apr 2015
#88
"Building desalination plants is the Right Wing Corporatist approach to solving the problem."
Ghost in the Machine
Apr 2015
#43
So I went to do the math again. Humans consume +/- 3,000 km^3 per year worldwide...
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#57
SORRY. There are no "new technologies that are coming online" that will provide more water.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#42
That line of thinking brought us horizontal drilling, fracking, and oil shale and tar sands...
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#69
I liken "advancements" in water exploitation to those used in fossil fuel extraction, yes I do.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#76
Is there any beneficial use for the salts that are removed during the desalination process?
tularetom
Apr 2015
#6
Desalenizaton uses three liters of salt water to make one liter of freshwater.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#18
Ahistorically wet; long dry periods are "normal", some of them lasting centuries.
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2015
#23
Filling a salt wate lake would kill local vegatation nad indigenous animals that need the fresh
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#15
Under the right circumstances, this might yield some water, not sure if it's economical.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#16
It might work in the short term but eventually all that salt that was filtered out would
tularetom
Apr 2015
#70
We simply use too much. No need for desal plants, better to invest in greywater systems.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#19
No, we are not getting enough water. This is a symptom of climate change.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#21
I don't understand the concept of areas of the country that get too much water.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#39
We've had flooding back east. What I suggest is we set up a naton wide system
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#49
My initial impression is that you are suggesting that some areas steal water from other areas.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#52
That seems to be the suggestion being made. It was a failure then and would be again.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#61
Alternatively: water demand is too high, the amount of water is the natural amount.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#20
The residential water needed is actually state population X gallons/person/day.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#55
Better if it's closed at the top, need to maintain high temp, humidity , closed system.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#44
This could be a great improvement, provided the high temps can be reached and maintained.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#53
Do some mirroring, not just transparency, so it functions a bit more like a solar oven?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
#56
I'd keep it closed, mirrors might work well, and flotatation would be build in.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#58