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In reply to the discussion: Where can investors who worry about climate change put their pension? [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)16. “I would venture to guess a nuclear plant pays back invested carbon in the first week of operation.”
You would be quite mistaken.
http://www.bnl.gov/pv/files/pdf/abs_200.pdf
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Greenhouse-gas Emissions from Solar Electric- and Nuclear Power: A Life-cycle Study[/font]
[font size=4]CONCLUDING REMARKS[/font]
[font size=3]An evaluation of alternative energy technologies for their potential to decrease GHG emissions requires careful analyses of all the stages in the life of the fuels and devices. Quantifying such emissions in both present-day and prospective contexts is paramount for comparing the environmental profiles of different electricity-generation options. GHG emissions in the lifecycles of solar electric- and nuclear-fuel- technologies vary, depending on the efficiencies of upstream energy, local conditions, and other assumptions. Previous studies showing nuclear technology to have a clear GHG advantage over PV are greatly outdated; while both life cycles were described by old data, the problem is especially pertinent to the fast evolving PV industry. The emissions from the life-cycles of the two cycles are comparable under todays average U.S. conditions. Established trends in the PV cycle are expected to keep further reducing emissions in the solar-electric cycle, while planned centrifugal fuel enrichment will significantly reduce GHG emissions in the U.S. nuclear cycle after 2015. However, the estimates associated with the latter bear large parametrical- and methodological- uncertainties that can be reduced only with detailed and all-inclusive process-based analysis. In addition, estimates based on concepts (e.g., re-conversion) and untested stages (e.g., Yucca Mountain permanent repository) need to be examined in greater detail.
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[font size=4]CONCLUDING REMARKS[/font]
[font size=3]An evaluation of alternative energy technologies for their potential to decrease GHG emissions requires careful analyses of all the stages in the life of the fuels and devices. Quantifying such emissions in both present-day and prospective contexts is paramount for comparing the environmental profiles of different electricity-generation options. GHG emissions in the lifecycles of solar electric- and nuclear-fuel- technologies vary, depending on the efficiencies of upstream energy, local conditions, and other assumptions. Previous studies showing nuclear technology to have a clear GHG advantage over PV are greatly outdated; while both life cycles were described by old data, the problem is especially pertinent to the fast evolving PV industry. The emissions from the life-cycles of the two cycles are comparable under todays average U.S. conditions. Established trends in the PV cycle are expected to keep further reducing emissions in the solar-electric cycle, while planned centrifugal fuel enrichment will significantly reduce GHG emissions in the U.S. nuclear cycle after 2015. However, the estimates associated with the latter bear large parametrical- and methodological- uncertainties that can be reduced only with detailed and all-inclusive process-based analysis. In addition, estimates based on concepts (e.g., re-conversion) and untested stages (e.g., Yucca Mountain permanent repository) need to be examined in greater detail.
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Where can investors who worry about climate change put their pension? [View all]
wtmusic
Dec 2012
OP
If fuel sources are switched to renewables, atmospheric carbon could head down eventually
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#7
Is the amount CO2 that heads skyward just to make a solar panel that works 13% of the time justified
OKIsItJustMe
Dec 2012
#13
“I would venture to guess a nuclear plant pays back invested carbon in the first week of operation.”
OKIsItJustMe
Dec 2012
#16
As a member of the credit union, you should have access to their annual report
OnlinePoker
Dec 2012
#19
Pump manufacturers. Concrete makers. Food stocks of all sorts will rise in value as
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#11
But if market places loose stability, it makes investment incredibly risky anyway
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#12
What if we face unpredictable, non-linear psychological impacts from climate change?
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#25
Because no clean energy, advanced battery, or mass transportation is ever financed by Wall St.
wtmusic
Dec 2012
#21
But isn't the market consolidation because of Wall St, not in spite of it?
raouldukelives
Dec 2012
#46
Maybe with all your grand profits you'll be able to pay for the imported wheat
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#33
What the climate may or may not do probably doesn't significantly affect demand yet
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#41
That's the kind of narrative people weave to justify buying an overpriced box in the sky
NoOneMan
Dec 2012
#43
You mean those indigenous peoples who slaughtered each other at the slightest provocation?
wtmusic
Dec 2012
#54