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OKIsItJustMe

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16. “I would venture to guess a nuclear plant pays back invested carbon in the first week of operation.”
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

You would be quite mistaken.

http://www.bnl.gov/pv/files/pdf/abs_200.pdf

[font face=Serif][font size=5]Greenhouse-gas Emissions from Solar Electric- and Nuclear Power: A Life-cycle Study[/font]



[font size=4]CONCLUDING REMARKS[/font]

[font size=3]An evaluation of alternative energy technologies for their potential to decrease GHG emissions requires careful analyses of all the stages in the life of the fuels and devices. Quantifying such emissions in both present-day and prospective contexts is paramount for comparing the environmental profiles of different electricity-generation options. GHG emissions in the lifecycles of solar electric- and nuclear-fuel- technologies vary, depending on the efficiencies of upstream energy, local conditions, and other assumptions. Previous studies showing nuclear technology to have a clear GHG advantage over PV are greatly outdated; while both life cycles were described by old data, the problem is especially pertinent to the fast evolving PV industry. The emissions from the life-cycles of the two cycles are comparable under today’s average U.S. conditions. Established trends in the PV cycle are expected to keep further reducing emissions in the solar-electric cycle, while planned centrifugal fuel enrichment will significantly reduce GHG emissions in the U.S. nuclear cycle after 2015. However, the estimates associated with the latter bear large parametrical- and methodological- uncertainties that can be reduced only with detailed and all-inclusive process-based analysis. In addition, estimates based on concepts (e.g., re-conversion) and untested stages (e.g., Yucca Mountain permanent repository) need to be examined in greater detail.

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Thank you for posting this. Control-Z Dec 2012 #1
Choosing The Right Clean Energy Mutual Fund or ETF OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #8
You have to be careful wtmusic Dec 2012 #10
Why would anyone worried about climate change be investing? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #2
Jesus, zat you? wtmusic Dec 2012 #4
So is what I said true or false? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #5
It's neither, or both. wtmusic Dec 2012 #6
If fuel sources are switched to renewables, atmospheric carbon could head down eventually NoOneMan Dec 2012 #7
"it takes dirty production to even make the renewables" wtmusic Dec 2012 #9
Is the amount CO2 that heads skyward just to make a solar panel that works 13% of the time justified OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #13
With residential solar it's justified wtmusic Dec 2012 #14
“I would venture to guess a nuclear plant pays back invested carbon in the first week of operation.” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #16
You guys are quite the dreamers. wtmusic Dec 2012 #18
Sometimes growth in one sector leads to a decline in another. tinrobot Dec 2012 #48
And sometimes you just lead to more growth overall NoOneMan Dec 2012 #51
K&R limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #3
As a member of the credit union, you should have access to their annual report OnlinePoker Dec 2012 #19
Pump manufacturers. Concrete makers. Food stocks of all sorts will rise in value as AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #11
But if market places loose stability, it makes investment incredibly risky anyway NoOneMan Dec 2012 #12
So would currency. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #15
Yes, but probably less so NoOneMan Dec 2012 #17
Societal collapse is a long way off wtmusic Dec 2012 #22
Follow the food NoOneMan Dec 2012 #23
What if we face unpredictable, non-linear psychological impacts from climate change? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #25
Unlikely, because it's going to take a while. wtmusic Dec 2012 #26
They could put it into planting trees. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #20
Because no clean energy, advanced battery, or mass transportation is ever financed by Wall St. wtmusic Dec 2012 #21
Of course they have. Wall St has done many good things. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #27
+1 wtmusic Dec 2012 #28
But isn't the market consolidation because of Wall St, not in spite of it? raouldukelives Dec 2012 #46
It doesn't have to be. wtmusic Dec 2012 #47
Increase carbon sequestering vs increased carbon emissions NoOneMan Dec 2012 #24
Thinking about this... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #29
Sounds like the Mayan Calendar climate change scenario wtmusic Dec 2012 #30
AKA science NoOneMan Dec 2012 #31
Who said we could beat it? wtmusic Dec 2012 #32
Maybe with all your grand profits you'll be able to pay for the imported wheat NoOneMan Dec 2012 #33
Like I said, it's a personal decision wtmusic Dec 2012 #34
I don't think so either (regarding the mattress) NoOneMan Dec 2012 #35
But that is an investment. wtmusic Dec 2012 #36
"I don't know what working toward food security means" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #37
Yours will be the place to go for Canadian Waldorf salads. wtmusic Dec 2012 #38
Haha NoOneMan Dec 2012 #39
Well there you go. wtmusic Dec 2012 #40
What the climate may or may not do probably doesn't significantly affect demand yet NoOneMan Dec 2012 #41
I thought it was a rush of of Chinese from Hong Kong, wtmusic Dec 2012 #42
That's the kind of narrative people weave to justify buying an overpriced box in the sky NoOneMan Dec 2012 #43
So you would disagree with Forbes assessment: wtmusic Dec 2012 #44
Absolutely NoOneMan Dec 2012 #45
Most people don't have the capital to buy 40 acres and farm it. tinrobot Dec 2012 #49
I don't either NoOneMan Dec 2012 #50
The "system" is far more efficient than everyone having their own farm wtmusic Dec 2012 #52
Our system is far less efficient NoOneMan Dec 2012 #53
You mean those indigenous peoples who slaughtered each other at the slightest provocation? wtmusic Dec 2012 #54
Yes! Those brutal savages are the ones I am referring to NoOneMan Dec 2012 #55
Ah..experts in sustainable farming. wtmusic Dec 2012 #56
Kill him NoOneMan Dec 2012 #57
What if this Kayapo has bought an AR-15 with proceeds from his mutual fund investments? wtmusic Dec 2012 #58
Keep him away from our civilized children NoOneMan Dec 2012 #59
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