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GliderGuider

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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:11 AM Nov 2012

Global warming of +10C is ====>!!NOT!!<==== a reasonable expectation (erratum et apologia) [View all]

Last edited Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:52 AM - Edit history (4)

My +10C scenarios were developed based on my misreading of McKibben's statement of how much carbon there is available to be burned in fossil fuel reserves. The Rolling Stone article was unclear, and said 2,795 Gt of carbon, when in fact they meant 2,795 Gt of CO2. The true number they meant therefore is less than 1/3 the amount I was working with. So the actual warming potential if we burned it all is in the range of +5 degrees or so. It's still too high for the continuation of civilization as we know it but not quite the planetary existential calamity I was worried about.

Mea culpa for not cross-checking the numbers before I ran with them.

This also points out the risk associated with having a doomer mentality. The ability to accept extremely negative information can result in believing erroneous information just because it presses one's "confirmation bias" buttons.

Back to the drawing board for me...

My apologies to all who were misled by my recent outbreak of doomeritis.

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Still waiting for someone to debunk Lynas wtmusic Nov 2012 #1
Woh - Impressive Work Bigmack Nov 2012 #2
AT +10C, anybody who thinks humanity's survival is guaranteed is deluded. phantom power Nov 2012 #3
A +10C shift would be a planetwide catastrophe struggle4progress Nov 2012 #4
There is absolutely no question about that. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #5
By then we'll be colonizing Mars. joshcryer Nov 2012 #7
Is that a joke? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #9
Now that's an interesting observation. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #11
That's the main point I'm trying to make. joshcryer Nov 2012 #14
That'll happen too. We'll also probably move underground. joshcryer Nov 2012 #13
Any technology requires two key things in order to function GliderGuider Nov 2012 #15
Like you pointed out, we have fossil fuels until 2090. joshcryer Nov 2012 #17
Finding, drilling, transporting, refining and distributing GliderGuider Nov 2012 #19
I can't really disagree, I just can't predict how bad the die off will be. joshcryer Nov 2012 #20
Yes, there are a lot of unknowns. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #22
What can I say? Why aren't those in power getting the message? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #6
I suspect that some of them ignore it because they already get it. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #12
I'm not so sure they get it. Not to the point of solution. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #23
For the vast majority, I'm sure you're right. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #24
I think your study has a weakness that you have stated, ... CRH Nov 2012 #8
Thanks, those are good additions. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #10
So are you "prepping" for your predictions? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16
Nope. I've made the choice to stay in my community and go through whatever they do. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18
Good luck with that! NoOneMan Nov 2012 #21
Easter Island AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #25
Carl Lipo and Terry Hunt have some different mahina Nov 2012 #26
Yah, totally its contraversial AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #27
Rapa Nui peoples struggles are not over mahina Nov 2012 #28
holy smokes, my android does some crazy autocorrects. mahina Nov 2012 #29
Their radio carbing dating is thoroughly unsupported. joshcryer Nov 2012 #31
Really? AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #36
Carl Lipo and Terry Hunt have some wrong ideas about what happened. joshcryer Nov 2012 #30
Interesting mahina Nov 2012 #34
You sir, are on my awesome list AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #37
joshcryer and I may not agree on everything, but GliderGuider Nov 2012 #43
I think you're way too sanguine pscot Nov 2012 #32
The biggest unknown in all this is GliderGuider Nov 2012 #38
I agree pscot Nov 2012 #40
Acceleration - that's the kick in the nuts, isn't it? GliderGuider Nov 2012 #42
The kick in the nadgers pscot Nov 2012 #44
+10C is PETM temperatures. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #33
Yeah, not by 2100, anyhow. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #35
If we act by +3, we'll eventually get +6 anyway GliderGuider Nov 2012 #39
I've been pondering what temperature change I believe is realistic GliderGuider Nov 2012 #41
Kick to make sure people see my error and apology nt GliderGuider Nov 2012 #45
Phew. Please pass the gasoline? wtmusic Nov 2012 #46
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