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In reply to the discussion: (TED Talk) Amory Lovins: A 50-year plan for energy [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)38. I'm not trying to prove that.
My objection is more to growth and all the things that fuel it, including energy efficiency. I'm especially objecting to the mistaken assumption that increasing efficiency will somehow reduce growth. It won't. Oh, and to Amory's intellectually dishonest embrace of that mistaken assumption in his dismissal of rebound effects.
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In other words you are going strictly by your own evaluation of the evidence
kristopher
May 2012
#55
Every communication is semantically loaded - at least this one was obvious.
GliderGuider
May 2012
#18
Or, perhaps, you dismiss evidence out-of-hand which does not confirm your beliefs
OKIsItJustMe
May 2012
#27
Your "rebuttal" of Lovins etal leaves the realm of energy efficiency and rebound ...
kristopher
May 2012
#44
That doesn’t follow—(i.e. It's all in where you draw the system boundaries.)
OKIsItJustMe
May 2012
#34
The question is, do “whole lot of little bits add up to” more than the initial savings?
OKIsItJustMe
May 2012
#37
I guess my difficulty is that I don't see further economic productivity as "good".
GliderGuider
May 2012
#57
Having fuel efficient cars in Europe has done nothing to decrease global oil use
GliderGuider
May 2012
#43
I call it a logical deduction. You may call it a hunch if it makes you feel better.
GliderGuider
May 2012
#53