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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
16. Why the U.S. Is Nothing At All Like Greece
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:53 AM
Feb 2012

NO OUZO, FETA, AND OLIVES?

http://www.alternet.org/story/154199/why_the_u.s._is_nothing_at_all_like_greece?page=entire

....What follows is a self-defense lesson on why the United States is not Greece—or Europe. The U.S. economy is far larger and more productive than Greece. The United States has many more tools in its macro-economic policy box than countries in the eurozone. And while calls for austerity have kept the United States from undertaking government spending and investment large enough to support a robust economic recovery, at least thus far, the United States hasn’t undertaken the same self-defeating austerity measures Europe has. If we learn the right lessons from what is happening in the eurozone now, we never will. When economic activity plummeted during 2008 and 2009 in the United States, Europe, and throughout the world, coordinated stimulus spending of nations across the globe prevented the collapse of world output from becoming another Great Depression. Today, deficit spending remains critical as working people continue to struggle through an economic recovery that has done little to create jobs or to lift wages, but much to restore profits....

...The central banks of most other countries have much the same abilities as the Fed has to inject money into their economies and to buy government debt. As with the Fed, they may or may not choose to use this power. But the power is unquestionably there. The 17 countries in the eurozone, however, relinquished their ability to print money, expand their money supplies, and lower interest rates when they adopted the euro as their common currency. Only the European Central Bank—known as the ECB—can authorize the “printing of euros,” and the ECB maintains control over the money supply of the eurozone. Unlike the Fed, the ECB does not have a dual mandate to pursue low employment as well as low inflation. The ECB’s authority is limited to maintaining low inflation, known as “price stability,” which the ECB defines as an inflation rate below 2 percent. And the ECB is prohibited from directly buying government bonds. The ECB is authorized to buy government bonds only on the “secondary” bond market, when original purchasers resell them.

The result of these policies is that eurozone countries must sell their bonds on the open market. That leaves them entirely dependent on private bond buyers (i.e., lenders), whether from their own country or other countries, to finance their government deficits. Governments must offer their bonds for sale with rates of returns (or interest rates) that will attract those bonds buyers. Each uptick in the interest rate adds to the debt burden of these countries, and makes deficit spending to stimulate the economy that much more expensive...Eurozone guidelines prohibit budget deficits that exceed 3 percent of GDP, or national debt in excess of 60 percent of their GDP. And there is no central fiscal authority with deep pockets to turn to. Contrast this with the United States, where states also share the same currency and the Fed targets one interest rate, but where states can turn to the federal government for assistance in times of economic stress. In effect, the eurozone countries were left to confront the global downturn and the sovereign debt crisis with one policy hand tied behind their back, and a couple of digits lopped off the other. Market pressure on interest rates made it yet more difficult for eurozone countries to get out of trouble by undertaking countercyclical, or stimulus, spending when economies slowed.

In the few cases where eurozone authorities have provided loans to indebted countries, they have insisted on austerity measures ranging from slashing government spending to public- and private-sector wage cuts as the pre-condition for providing relief. But since cutting government spending in a downturn leads to both a fall in demand and rise in unemployment, this emergency lending is making it even harder for eurozone countries to recover...

and the Oscar goes to -- MONDAY! xchrom Feb 2012 #1
Would be better if today were Friday! Roland99 Feb 2012 #5
I'd like to have a few hours of last night back. Tansy_Gold Feb 2012 #8
i'll stay in my room and behave... xchrom Feb 2012 #13
Oh, have no fear! Tansy_Gold Feb 2012 #72
kinda the same here but different Roland99 Feb 2012 #28
indeed -- here's to a fast approach to friday xchrom Feb 2012 #9
G20 disappointment hurts FTSE xchrom Feb 2012 #2
Stocks Decline From Seven-Month High; Oil Falls xchrom Feb 2012 #7
Danegeld Demeter Feb 2012 #10
+1 xchrom Feb 2012 #14
US futures have a case of the Mondays Roland99 Feb 2012 #31
Analysis - Commodities struggle to attract new funds xchrom Feb 2012 #3
Not to mention the rampant fraud and theft that just occurred for the third time Demeter Feb 2012 #11
The thread must be dedicated to strip malls today Po_d Mainiac Feb 2012 #4
Entitled: "If you build it and then trash the economy, they won't come"? Demeter Feb 2012 #12
Magic Mountain What happens at Davos? xchrom Feb 2012 #6
Optimistic farmers see boom coming to an end xchrom Feb 2012 #15
Why the U.S. Is Nothing At All Like Greece Demeter Feb 2012 #16
Thank you for this article, Demeter. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #75
Fed’s push on housing crosses a line, critics say Demeter Feb 2012 #17
America has lost almost a decade of progress to the financial crisis Demeter Feb 2012 #18
Obama's Squandered Recovery Rich Yeselson Demeter Feb 2012 #19
FiveBooks Interviews > Christina Romer on Learning from the Great Depression Demeter Feb 2012 #21
Probably better, is "Confidence Men", by Ron Suskind. Fuddnik Feb 2012 #30
just for fun... Oscars 2012: Worst dressed xchrom Feb 2012 #20
She looks like she's wrapped in those cheap paper napkins found in diners Demeter Feb 2012 #22
yeah -- not a great look. nt xchrom Feb 2012 #23
There were odd gowns DemReadingDU Feb 2012 #29
Surge in temp workers reflects fundamental change in American workplace Demeter Feb 2012 #24
Geithner Bond Returns Trail Paulson While Beating Rubin Demeter Feb 2012 #25
"the 18-month recession that ended in June 2009".......Really????? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #76
Could the American government default? Demeter Feb 2012 #26
Mercatus Center @ GMU - Not a reliable source. philly_bob Feb 2012 #63
It no longer matters if anyone is CORRECT Demeter Feb 2012 #64
I'll take "break the promises made to future benefit recipients" for 800.00, Alex. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #77
Krugman: How Europe's Leaders Tanked its Economy Through Moralizing and the Austerity Fantasy Demeter Feb 2012 #27
U.S. job quality is in trouble rfranklin Feb 2012 #32
Asian markets fall on global growth concerns xchrom Feb 2012 #33
Why the Media Loves the Violence of Protesters and Not of Banks Demeter Feb 2012 #34
Lessons From the National Teach-In: “No Substitute” for an Energized Citizenry By Isaiah J. Poole Demeter Feb 2012 #39
Occupy the SEC: Former Wall Street Workers Defend Volcker Rule Against Banks' VIDEO REPORT Demeter Feb 2012 #40
How to Ask Candidates Questions That Make a Difference By Fran Korten Demeter Feb 2012 #51
DOWN 68 PTS AT OPEN Demeter Feb 2012 #35
in the black now. all's well! Roland99 Feb 2012 #57
Chicago: Charter Schools Collect Almost $400,000 in Discipline “fees” By Susan Ferriss Demeter Feb 2012 #36
Oh, it could be worse. Fuddnik Feb 2012 #45
Jeezus! Demeter Feb 2012 #48
... xchrom Feb 2012 #50
That's fucked up. n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #60
The cartoon has it wrong - it's not D vs R bread_and_roses Feb 2012 #55
As per my post #45 Fuddnik Feb 2012 #56
Preparing for the Collapse of the Petrodollar System TalkingDog Feb 2012 #37
Ponzi schemes always do Demeter Feb 2012 #41
Less harried than last semester. But garden season is ramping up... TalkingDog Feb 2012 #44
No big pickup in job growth in 2012, forecasters say xchrom Feb 2012 #38
REVEALED: Romney’s Top Funders Made Billions on Auto Bail-Out By Greg Palast Demeter Feb 2012 #42
Warren Buffett: ‘It Is A Myth’ That U.S. Corporate Taxes Are High xchrom Feb 2012 #43
Tell that to all these Republicans who want to cut the rate! Fuddnik Feb 2012 #47
you read my mind xchrom Feb 2012 #49
yup - (n/t) bread_and_roses Feb 2012 #71
Despite Dangers, China Is Hot xchrom Feb 2012 #46
Despite Fierce Opposition, IA, CT, NJ, NY are All Attempting to Raise the Minimum Wage xchrom Feb 2012 #52
Ronald Reagan: Tax the Rich! xchrom Feb 2012 #53
China Congress of Billionaires Makes Capitol Hill Peers Look Like Paupers xchrom Feb 2012 #54
What if the Next Steve Jobs is Chinese? By Dean Baker Demeter Feb 2012 #66
+1 xchrom Feb 2012 #67
Get This--Santorum is calling Mich. Democrats to vote for him in primary on Tuesday Demeter Feb 2012 #58
Reality is beating on the door Demeter Feb 2012 #59
I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave xchrom Feb 2012 #61
Betcha it was Amazon.com Demeter Feb 2012 #65
Please post this in GD TalkingDog Feb 2012 #69
It's in good reads. xchrom Feb 2012 #70
Ahh.. gotcha. Been there, done that. TalkingDog Feb 2012 #73
Angelina Jolie last night. Hotler Feb 2012 #62
She's always - or for a long time - been pretty skinny. xchrom Feb 2012 #68
Looks like today was just a brain fart. Fuddnik Feb 2012 #74
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