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lumberjack_jeff

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4. I avoided that thread, but I do try to be consistent.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:28 AM
Dec 2014

Slurs are often defended by some variation on this theme "What? You're defending Cheney? After all the stupid shit he's done, calling him retarded/gay/a pussy is an understatement"

They never can seem to get their heads around the issue that this isn't about Cheney.

At risk of understatement, I'm not at all a fan of the mean girls club, or their tactics. But I didn't like the thread in question because it's illustrative of the point in my second paragraph.

One of the things that I appreciate about DU is the fact that after I and others expressed how hurtful "retarded" is when used as a slur, people generally stopped doing it. Therefore, I feel some obligation to reciprocate, even on behalf of people who have called me every sexist slur their limited vocabularies can summon.

Dick Cheney is a cowardly, pigeonhearted, pusillanimous, shrinking, scared, weak, worthless, yellow, fainthearted, diffident, base, cowering, gutless, spineless, timid hypocrite.

If I've offended anyone who actually has had a heart transplant from a pigeon, I'm happy to change my post because there are still plenty of synonyms.

I'm not sympathetic to the idea that a term must be offensive to *everyone* in a community before it should be avoided. And yes, I'd apply the same standard to "dick" and "prick"

Well, another cowardly attack... [View all] TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 OP
At least we are not blocked from here libodem Dec 2014 #1
and dusting off old platitudes and rec'ing them onto the greatest page Doctor_J Jan 2015 #44
It's a curious phenomenon libodem Jan 2015 #45
Oh, I don't think you were attacked by cowards malthaussen Dec 2014 #2
In a protected group where I can't reply... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #5
I'd advise you not to confuse grousing with attack malthaussen Dec 2014 #7
I agree with most of what you've stated... Veilex Dec 2014 #16
"Should the expected alert be successful, I will assume m y point proven." NCTraveler Dec 2014 #3
I avoided that thread, but I do try to be consistent. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #4
I'm just not really into word policing Major Nikon Dec 2014 #6
As in many things, it's not binary. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #10
That's why pointing out the motivation is important Major Nikon Dec 2014 #11
Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #21
Wait, what's wrong with shrill? And hasn't "hysteria" developed well beyond it's origins by now? kjones Dec 2014 #14
Darnit! You beat me to the Betty white posting! Veilex Dec 2014 #17
I was on the jury Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #8
Hmmm Veilex Dec 2014 #18
Just for the record-- this is not my alert... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #23
I wouldn't have voted to hide that one Major Nikon Dec 2014 #24
a couple months back I posted that someone offended by the sleeze at DI Doctor_J Dec 2014 #9
Times when the words "echo chamber" is apt. Veilex Dec 2014 #19
Dick Cheney doesn't bother them. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #12
Bullshit. JTFrog Dec 2014 #29
Can't we just agree that he is both a pussy and a Dick? kjones Dec 2014 #13
No. Veilex Dec 2014 #20
Personally, I think people take things too seriously. kjones Dec 2014 #25
We differ a bit on this... Veilex Dec 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #27
Getting the menu mixed up with the meal, as it were. Confusing the map with the territory. Veilex Dec 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #30
*Shrug* Veilex Dec 2014 #33
Demands for a double standard aren't reasonable Major Nikon Dec 2014 #31
"Demands for a double standard aren't reasonable" - But that is not what this is. Veilex Dec 2014 #32
"The world will still turn, the sun will still shine..." kjones Dec 2014 #35
I was responding to your post, but perhaps we both misunderstood each other Major Nikon Dec 2014 #36
"that's not the argument that's being made elsewhere on this site" - true. Veilex Dec 2014 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #43
Very well said. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #37
"I do agree with you in that how something is said and the context in which it is conveyed..." kjones Dec 2014 #34
"So why focus on words when you can focus on bigots?" - perhaps its because... Veilex Dec 2014 #39
Fair enough kjones Dec 2014 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #15
I'd like to start a pool. Whoever guesses the correct amount of replies to such threads, wins! Inkfreak Dec 2014 #22
619 and still growing Major Nikon Dec 2014 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #42
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