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Ken Burch

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21. I've got nothing against Clive Lewis. Clive Lewis supports Jeremy as leader.
Sun Feb 12, 2017, 01:29 AM
Feb 2017

He reaffirmed this when he resigned from the Shadow Cabinet. He disagrees with Corbyn's strategy on Brexit, but he doesn't want Corbyn to resign.

And you know perfectly well the PLP would never allow anyone as far to the left as Clive to be on the leadership ballot if it was left up to them.

And I've made suggestions as to how the PLP might be able to persuade Corbyn to go if he's really that much of a problem:

1)They could commit to making sure at least one other left-wing candidate was nominated in the leadership vote to replace Corbyn;

2)They could agree that all the suspensions and expulsions imposed on left-wing people during the last leadership vote being lifted, since all of those people should have a right to vote.

3)They could commit to restoring full internal party democracy.

Instead of offering anything remotely close to those proposals, they've offered nothing but a proposal to invent a pathetic, meaningless position as "party president". In that position, Jeremy would have no say in policy and would be expected to unquestioningly support the restored Blairite agenda the PLP wants to impose. And he would be expected to support every act of retribution the party imposed on his supporters.

Why would you ever expect the man to go under those circumstances? You wouldn't, if you were him.

And it's not about "purity". It's about fighting for the people. You can't do that and support the benefits cap, the budget charter, bombing Syria and Thatcher's anti-worker laws(the agenda the anti-Corbynites insist on, from all that I've read).

Well, anything Chuka Umunna does is about trying to make Labour stand for nothing at all Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1
If this is how Unite treat other people in the Labour movement... T_i_B Jan 2017 #2
I didn't support what McCluskey did. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #3
Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #4
It's not about "ideological purity", it's about who you fight for. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #5
So you are supporting McCluskey's actions then. T_i_B Feb 2017 #6
No, I'm not supporting McCluskey's actions Ken Burch Feb 2017 #7
This is not about Corbyn, Umunna or McCluskey but about Remain/Leave and the RIGHT to fight against LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #8
As I said, I'd have voted Remain. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #9
Because at the moment leaving the EU is inextricably intertwined with anti-immigrant, racist policy LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Feb 2017 #11
Was this post intended for me? LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #12
I should have sent it to the person who started this thread Ken Burch Feb 2017 #13
I was responding specifically to your remark LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #16
Two things I think came into play with what McCluskey did(I don't support suspensions, period) Ken Burch Feb 2017 #14
Thank f**k you aren't my union rep T_i_B Feb 2017 #15
Is there any way to improve matters for UNITE's members.. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #17
The answer is by building coalitions T_i_B Feb 2017 #18
The members of the PLP who still want Corbyn out aren't PART of the left, though Ken Burch Feb 2017 #19
They absolutly are 100% part of the left T_i_B Feb 2017 #20
I've got nothing against Clive Lewis. Clive Lewis supports Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #21
Unite HQ Dworkin Feb 2017 #22
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