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Alcibiades

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49. That's a good point
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:01 AM
Dec 2013

There are many people who migrate, for many reasons. Right now, the unemployment rate in Durham County is 6.1%, and one of the reasons it is that high is because so many folks have moved here. It's not great, but apparently lower than where you live. I would guess that lots of those young people are coming down here for jobs, which makes some sense. Looking at your housing market, though, it makes no sense. It looks like you can find some lovely houses in Ashtabula for cheaper than you could in a good neighborhood here, assuming you can land a job.

Much of the push and pull seems to be driven by the housing and labor market. Anecdotally, we are probably getting a lot more older folks than young people looking for work, but they come, too. They tend to wind up in places such as Charlotte and Wake County, particularly Cary and Apex. There is a bit of a selection effect: people looking for a place that is "vibrant" move to someplace like Durham or Asheville, folks who are mainly looking for good schools wind up in the suburbs of Charlotte or various places in Wake County.

It has been reported that there is something of a self-selection sorting effect going on: many progressives who move look for other progressive places, and many regressives look for the opposite. For folks who have paid off their mortgages, moving to someplace like NC is a no-brainer, at least if they don't care about being near friends and family (I had family in the Carolinas myself, which was one reasons I came home to NC). In the northeast, in places where housing prices are high, you can sell your house, even in this market, and earn a tidy profit, and buy a much larger house here, assuming you want a larger house (incredibly to me, many people seem to want that, though there is also an increasing market for smaller homes near the city center). But that does not apply in your case, so it's probably the labor market that is driving things.

I used to live in Pittsburgh, though the closest I ever got to your neck of the woods was Erie. That was a long time ago, but after a lot of the mills had shut down. I do see a lot of Steelers bumper stickers here, so we are getting plenty of folks from western PA, but I don't think I know anyone from eastern Ohio, though I imagine they are coming for the same sorts of reasons the Pennsylvanians are coming.

It's been interesting watching the... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #1
"Ich bin ein Carolinian!" Great line... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2013 #4
Theory runs into reality, once again. riqster Nov 2013 #2
Always the downfall of right-wing ideology. It can never stand up to real life. gtar100 Nov 2013 #25
RW ideology can only maintain itself... nikto Nov 2013 #26
probably because of the LittleGirl Nov 2013 #3
What does that mean? Populist_Prole Nov 2013 #5
Raleigh is considered the silcon valley of the east no? LittleGirl Nov 2013 #11
I guess Populist_Prole Nov 2013 #14
Not really, no Alcibiades Nov 2013 #10
Interesting material. Bohunk68 Nov 2013 #16
That's a good point Alcibiades Dec 2013 #49
I was born and raised in Ashtabula, Bohunk68 Dec 2013 #53
I know a few families from NY Alcibiades Dec 2013 #54
THere is this Alcibiades Dec 2013 #52
Nice summation of what I've seen erronis Nov 2013 #23
And why would people move to NC? AlbertCat Nov 2013 #41
You're right about spring and fall Alcibiades Dec 2013 #51
But summer? Not too severe? Maybe if you live in Asheville. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #55
Of course, on the coast it's pleasant. Alcibiades Dec 2013 #56
Here in the Piedmont, AlbertCat Dec 2013 #57
Welcome to DU, erronis! calimary Nov 2013 #44
I have a lot of friends up there Alcibiades Dec 2013 #50
North Carolina? My ex-husband lives there..... TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #28
I hate that man! Enuf said about North Carolina! AlbertCat Nov 2013 #40
Lighten up, Francis! TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #42
I'm not really seeing the roadblock. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #6
is anyone going to run against Kay H. ? littlewolf Nov 2013 #7
I haven't heard of any Democratic challengers... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #12
true dat. thank you. nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #13
You're welcome. Just saw this in today's N&O... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #43
That is great news! another_liberal Nov 2013 #8
LOL seeing "right wing" and "success story" in the same sentence... Beartracks Nov 2013 #9
In the same sentence, kind of like... nikto Nov 2013 #27
Two things you can always count on with Republicans: nyquil_man Nov 2013 #15
CORRECT; the reasons for this are Skittles Nov 2013 #17
the state’s mountainous western region Martin Eden Nov 2013 #18
That "hard right" shit was bound to get serious Cha Nov 2013 #19
"push back...spearheaded not by state Democrats" yurbud Nov 2013 #20
And the Repuglicans use that against them... mdbl Nov 2013 #34
Welcome to DU, mdbl! calimary Nov 2013 #45
Thanks calimary! mdbl Nov 2013 #47
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Nov 2013 #21
These idiots push for white male rule and ASSUME all white males will support it. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #22
Compare this to California. tclambert Nov 2013 #24
The wingnut house of cards is collapsing Major Nikon Nov 2013 #29
YES. Proud Californian here - this is what happens when republi-CONS don't get their way. calimary Nov 2013 #46
Amazing what happens when people in power want to govern mdbl Nov 2013 #48
You can add WI, MI, OH, AZ, and FL to the rapidly expanding list of that lurch to the hard right. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #30
I thought they had lurched long ago mdbl Nov 2013 #32
"This is no momentary hyperventilation and liberal screaming match. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #31
"... campaign has been spearheaded not by state Democrats ..." Same was true here in Wisconsin. Scuba Nov 2013 #33
I had a sinking feeling when that historic protest got channeled into a recall yurbud Nov 2013 #35
The State Party joined the fray late, then made a huge mistake by scheduling the recall .... Scuba Nov 2013 #36
that sadly confirms my point yurbud Nov 2013 #37
The biggest mistake made by the rw Repubs in NC mnhtnbb Nov 2013 #38
Recommend! KoKo Nov 2013 #39
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