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freshwest

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18. I became unchurched because of the righties, and fundies of all persuasions.
Sun Dec 11, 2011, 12:05 PM
Dec 2011

I was brought up a Baptist in a family Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, Unitarians and atheists. We also had Quakers in our lineage. For that reason, we didn't take any of those stances to be ultimate authorities as we respected our individualism. The main emphasis for us was the Golden Rule.

Baptists at that era in my area, weren't political, did not exclude, and did not take themselves that seriously, had just found a difference of opinion on how baptism was to be performed, thinking that it literally meant submersion in water and not sprinkling, as a symbol of a changed heart.

The focus where I attended was on having a childlike faith and a humility that ensured a built-in sense of not judging others, realizing all could be in error, when compared to a 'creator.' That breeds kindness and respect. In other words, walk humbly and realize you don't have all the answers, so live and let live. I guess it would be called a 'liberal' Baptist church.

My family respected all the different methods of living according to the Golden Rule, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Judaism, Zoroastrianism or native American beliefs.

We felt comfortable with socialism as a way to promote equality of all peoples and 'creation' itself, although the family was composed of working women, housewives, businessmen, blue collar men, academics and unionists. Not that gender assigned those roles exclusively, we were a mixed bag there.

Socialism appealed to a sense of a universal spirit of love, inclusive and non-judgmental, spreading to all living things. It just seemed the right way to go, getting to the basics of life, in fact it's natural. We have been deluged with a philosophy that says that nature is all about competition and eating each other. If it was, there wouldn't be many survivors. There are numerous examples of how individuals within species work together and how different species also live in cooperation with each other.

Anyway, socialism is the most logical system for many functions of society. It allows for the greatest accountability and public input in the needs of people. Such things as water, electricity, healthcare and care of those in need is best dealt with by socialism. When society is maintained as inclusive, not divided by wealth, and the basics of life are not disputed because of sense of the sanctity of life (not this travesty the rightwing has promoted), human beings can soar with freedom.

Privatization is selling those needs to those who are not accountable, not inclusive because the capitalist mindset, of necessity, makes division in order to squeeze out a profit. A profit essentially is a function of inequality. Not the spirit of love and inclusiveness, of cooperation and meeting human needs, as I explained in my view before.

Nice talking to you here.



P. S. Note that MLK was not only a Christian, he had found the meaning of love, and sought to understand reality far beyond any confining religious view, and his political stances were decried as being socialist and communist.

What led you to socialism? [View all] white_wolf Dec 2011 OP
Initially, it was the spirit of New Testament Christianity: freshwest Dec 2011 #1
This is an interesting response - TBF Dec 2011 #17
I became unchurched because of the righties, and fundies of all persuasions. freshwest Dec 2011 #18
I think that "unchurching" may happen with many folks - TBF Dec 2011 #22
Religion is odd. PETRUS Dec 2011 #32
"A profit is essentially a function of inequality" socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #33
I live in a commie area. Don't tell anyone... freshwest Dec 2011 #34
The righties want to nuke everyone slightly different from them. white_wolf Dec 2011 #35
I'm with you on that angle of why I am here. jwirr Dec 2011 #26
Socialized medicine saved my life OswegoAtheist Dec 2011 #2
I've been through a lot of medical emergencies. Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #12
In true Capitalist form... OswegoAtheist Dec 2011 #14
Education reform. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #3
The privatization of schools is terrible. white_wolf Dec 2011 #4
I agree totally with your analysis. They also want to eliminate unions because they are conscious of freshwest Dec 2011 #20
Your theory is totally correct. Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #23
Nothing fancy.... daleanime Dec 2011 #5
Good post. For me its experiences overseas and talking to people from overseas. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2011 #6
I first read Marx in the Duct Tape Dec 2011 #7
My parents were both Democratic Socialists, so I was brought up in a household where coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #8
Real values in our own lives. Our work. OUR SOCIAL contract. patrice Dec 2011 #9
because I think everyone should move in together. patrice Dec 2011 #10
Just thinking about how unfair life can sometimes be Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #11
In a nutshell. GeorgeGist Dec 2011 #13
It was nearly a decade for me, tavalon Dec 2011 #15
WW, I'm from a union family TBF Dec 2011 #16
Nothing led me to 'Socialism'. RC Dec 2011 #19
Well I wasn't a red diaper baby, but it was pink... socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #21
I did some serious thinking from my science/biology perspective kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #24
I have been called a socialist since working for McGovern. Finally decided that I really do want to jwirr Dec 2011 #25
I grew up in a Big Labor household. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #27
Odd path, but I came to be a socialist through membership in the Libertarian Party toddaa Dec 2011 #28
As a Trot, I'm not real fond of bureaucracy in general socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #31
I'm King Asshole ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #44
I read some Socialist literature, and it just made so much obvious sense. mistertrickster Dec 2011 #29
Good question. PETRUS Dec 2011 #30
I grew up poor. joshcryer Dec 2011 #36
I grew up fairly wealthy ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #41
I had illusions that if you worked really hard you'd become rich... joshcryer Dec 2011 #42
File sharing! Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #46
My background is in education Owlet Dec 2011 #37
Ignorant Populace - TBF Dec 2011 #38
Since the 60s... PETRUS Dec 2011 #39
Being human. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #40
Great answer :) nt TBF Dec 2011 #43
I have my moments sometimes. :) Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #45
First, by way of the RRC - Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #47
Love your last line - TBF Jan 2012 #48
I thought it was because I was smart and insightful at a young age. Sisaruus Jan 2012 #49
Nothing led me to Socialism, and I hope not everyone here is a pure Socialist emaxwell1313 Jan 2012 #50
You'll find a range of view here. PETRUS Jan 2012 #51
Welcome to DU and Socialist Progressives - TBF Jan 2012 #52
Who is the government? socialist_n_TN Jan 2012 #53
That is true emaxwell1313 Jan 2012 #54
The development of socialism is part of the historical process. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #55
I wouldnt have said that emaxwell1313 Jan 2012 #56
That's a lot of thoughts. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #57
Are you referring to the poll from 2009 ? emaxwell1313 Jan 2012 #58
The relevent thread can be found here: Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #59
It is because... emaxwell1313 Jan 2012 #60
You'll be relieved to know then, that isn't what Socialism is at all. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #61
Starry's point came immediately to mind when I read your post PETRUS Jan 2012 #62
asshole DLC and Third Way Democrats. provis99 Jan 2012 #63
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