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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
43. Well.....
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 02:06 AM
Jan 2015

...it's a close call with ''blessings.'' Seeing how those are normally within the purview of deities or at least those who like to think themselves god-like. It's got that whole Patriarchal-Hierarchical thing going-on with its top-down beneficence idealization. The whole ''Elites Handing Down Blessings to the Great Unwashed'' meme, and like that.

Posterity just smacks of ancestor-worship, so that won't help much either.

If at least Obama had used the god-terms that are found in the DOI, then he could claim both secularization (a great public document enshrined in the nation's Capitol), and religiosity (it mentions supernatural creation ideals and personae involved without getting too specific and pissing anyone off). Because the justifications that the founding fathers needed for telling King George to go take a flying leap -- had to incorporate god-talk into in some way.

It did if they expected poor and/or tenant-farmers to fight and die in a Revolutionary War against the greatest power in the world at the time (a Divine King no less), for land many of whom didn't own any, and for freedoms they didn't and wouldn't have if they won. Freedoms which those same founding fathers didn't intend for them to have after they won said war -- at first (thus the need to Amendments to the Constitution while the ink was still drying on the 1st draft) -- yeah they needed God implied if not stated outright, then as now.

They used all the tricks. They still do. And why not? It's like a ritual response. Like saying ''Amen'' at the end of a commandment, or hearing some other inane ''lifestyle advice.'' It helps to keep the sheeple calmed.

Nope, there's nothing for it. If I had to choose one way or another, then with the FSM/Pastafarians at least you have your beer volcanoes in heaven to look forward to. And the best part is you never get full.




- Otherwise my vote as far a religions go:

If it gets locked, re-post it in the Religion group. It's a pretty active group and it's on topic. Tobin S. Jan 2015 #1
Thank you marym625 Jan 2015 #3
It's a meaningless convention at this point. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2015 #2
This is why I'm asking marym625 Jan 2015 #4
meaningless but done to salve a certain group rurallib Jan 2015 #31
How about "No" without adding he should say it? rug Jan 2015 #5
done. marym625 Jan 2015 #8
Thanks. rug Jan 2015 #17
No problem. We aim to please :) marym625 Jan 2015 #19
I see it as a gesture, like wearing the flag pin in his lapel. Arkansas Granny Jan 2015 #6
That is probably the case. Tobin S. Jan 2015 #7
Could be. marym625 Jan 2015 #9
No. This is where I take issue with fellow agnostics/atheists. Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #10
Thanks for the input marym625 Jan 2015 #11
Rather than "God bless America" he should say: El Supremo Jan 2015 #12
Okay. marym625 Jan 2015 #13
I Don't Care Wolf Frankula Jan 2015 #14
Oh he pissed me off saying that! marym625 Jan 2015 #15
You Had a Problem With Red Skelton Wolf Frankula Jan 2015 #52
I was kidding marym625 Jan 2015 #55
It's idiotic, but he has to do it. Like wearing a flag pin. progressoid Jan 2015 #16
I agree marym625 Jan 2015 #18
At 33 votes, I'm surprised at the answers marym625 Jan 2015 #20
I think it's an indication of how regressive and reactionary we 20score Jan 2015 #21
I agree with everything you said marym625 Jan 2015 #22
meh trof Jan 2015 #23
Thank you marym625 Jan 2015 #24
I take issue with it. The issue is only in my mind. I don't expect the populace to concur. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #25
Same here. marym625 Jan 2015 #26
It bugs me, but if he didn't I'm sure Fox would make a big issue of it. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #27
I am sure that they would marym625 Jan 2015 #28
Yeah, I agree with you. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #46
I suspect that there are very many marym625 Jan 2015 #48
I don't know where I stand on this. F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #29
yes, it is definitely pushing religion on us. marym625 Jan 2015 #30
You are quite right: F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #32
That decision blew me away marym625 Jan 2015 #33
Me too. nt F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #34
As an Atheist... pipi_k Jan 2015 #35
Ha! marym625 Jan 2015 #37
What they don't know... pipi_k Jan 2015 #45
I hope God blesses this land... hrmjustin Jan 2015 #36
Haha! marym625 Jan 2015 #38
Meh. DeSwiss Jan 2015 #39
But none of those words are in the Constitution marym625 Jan 2015 #40
Well..... DeSwiss Jan 2015 #43
Oh this should be its own post marym625 Jan 2015 #44
i do NOT have a problem with President say"God bless" after any other speech trueblue2007 Jan 2015 #41
got it! marym625 Jan 2015 #42
its like the Flying Nun olddots Jan 2015 #47
Haha! marym625 Jan 2015 #49
I don't care for it, but I put up with it. DFW Jan 2015 #50
Great answer marym625 Jan 2015 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jan 2015 #51
That would be so much fun! marym625 Jan 2015 #54
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