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In reply to the discussion: Do you have a problem with the POTUS saying "God bless" [View all]DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...it's a close call with ''blessings.'' Seeing how those are normally within the purview of deities or at least those who like to think themselves god-like. It's got that whole Patriarchal-Hierarchical thing going-on with its top-down beneficence idealization. The whole ''Elites Handing Down Blessings to the Great Unwashed'' meme, and like that.
Posterity just smacks of ancestor-worship, so that won't help much either.
If at least Obama had used the god-terms that are found in the DOI, then he could claim both secularization (a great public document enshrined in the nation's Capitol), and religiosity (it mentions supernatural creation ideals and personae involved without getting too specific and pissing anyone off). Because the justifications that the founding fathers needed for telling King George to go take a flying leap -- had to incorporate god-talk into in some way.
It did if they expected poor and/or tenant-farmers to fight and die in a Revolutionary War against the greatest power in the world at the time (a Divine King no less), for land many of whom didn't own any, and for freedoms they didn't and wouldn't have if they won. Freedoms which those same founding fathers didn't intend for them to have after they won said war -- at first (thus the need to Amendments to the Constitution while the ink was still drying on the 1st draft) -- yeah they needed God implied if not stated outright, then as now.
They used all the tricks. They still do. And why not? It's like a ritual response. Like saying ''Amen'' at the end of a commandment, or hearing some other inane ''lifestyle advice.'' It helps to keep the sheeple calmed.
Nope, there's nothing for it. If I had to choose one way or another, then with the FSM/Pastafarians at least you have your beer volcanoes in heaven to look forward to. And the best part is you never get full.
- Otherwise my vote as far a religions go: