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tclambert

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23. Lyudmila Pavlichenko--309 kills in World War II.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jan 2013

She was one of about 2,000 women snipers the Soviets used against the Germans. They put her on TWO postage stamps.

Chris Kyle, America's most lethal sniper, possibly had 255 kills (160 confirmed). White Feather, the legendary Carlos Hathcock, had 93 confirmed kills during the Vietnam War. One of Hathcock's kills was the notorious "Apache," a Viet Cong sniper and torturer who terrorized American troops in the mid-1960s. Apache turned out to be a woman.

These few stats do not mean that women are inherently better snipers or soldiers than men. Vasily Zaytsev had 225 kills in one 5 week stretch during the Battle of Stalingrad (the bloodiest battle in human history with about 10 times the death toll of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs put together). Zaytsev may have had between 400 and 700 kills total. (The score-keeping was a little sloppy back then.)

My point was really that the Russians had pretty good success with women as snipers, and combat soldiers, and combat pilots during World War II. To fight a war without women fighters is just to fight with one hand behind your back.

Too Bad Ryan Smith (bottom comment) Does Not Suffer From Shy Blather kairos12 Jan 2013 #1
What Exactly are Women Designed for, Mr Fisher??? sheshe2 Jan 2013 #2
Rape, obviously. malthaussen Jan 2013 #5
That may be how Right Wing Freaks, want it to be viewed, because it is easy. sheshe2 Jan 2013 #8
I Guess BDavinciNY Jan 2013 #39
"This is not a Hollywood movie." AlbertCat Jan 2013 #3
I'd love to see these clowns' DD214s!! MADem Jan 2013 #4
How about this... RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #6
Yeah, from one form of victimization to another... malthaussen Jan 2013 #10
War is not a thing that any of us should partake in. RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #15
As it is right now men make up 98% of the war dead Meandering1 Jan 2013 #33
Agreed. The media just keeps putting war on a pedistal RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #38
hardly pasto76 Jan 2013 #41
I wasn't trying to insult anyone. RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #43
About the humiliation of relieving yourself in front of the opposite sex. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #7
ignorant uneducated right wing brain-stems madrchsod Jan 2013 #9
uneducated kardonb Jan 2013 #14
This whole issue is cracking me up -looks like we've uncovered another round of fear toby jo Jan 2013 #11
In other words, women are nothing more than brood mares. sarge43 Jan 2013 #16
Talk about living in the past AlbertCat Jan 2013 #36
Aren't you thankful NightOwwl Jan 2013 #12
Mr. Fischer, the Israeli and Australian Armies... damonm Jan 2013 #13
Three of these five dunces are women!!! KamaAina Jan 2013 #17
What else do you expect in a nation that conditions women to be subvertive to male authoritarianism? alp227 Jan 2013 #31
I expect them to express sentiments that differentiate them from a doormat or a prostitute. KamaAina Jan 2013 #32
Part of being a feminist means taking responsibility for yourself sarge43 Jan 2013 #34
To quote Hank Hill: "I don't know whether to laugh or vomit." Initech Jan 2013 #18
Why does this remind me... Skelly Jan 2013 #19
Yeah, this fits right into the War On Women Cha Jan 2013 #20
We have a few freaks here who agree with the right-wing Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #21
The stupidity of the Republican Party is simply astounding rickjliberal1946sef Jan 2013 #22
Lyudmila Pavlichenko--309 kills in World War II. tclambert Jan 2013 #23
Sabiha Gökçen 47of74 Jan 2013 #29
Having served in the Army I can tell you what the real problem is going to be with this underpants Jan 2013 #24
No one deserves to be in combat... Godot51 Jan 2013 #25
WOW! Once again the Right shows their true colors. indivisibleman Jan 2013 #26
Okay 'publicans, don't want women in combat stop making stupid wars. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #27
simple solution decrepittex Jan 2013 #42
Haircuts FormalObserver Jan 2013 #28
Here in Korea men have to do 2 years of mandatory military service davidpdx Jan 2013 #30
"humiliating" to pee in front of other men?!? pasto76 Jan 2013 #35
Division of Labor is a term of Modern Mechanized Warfare. Ability of strategic association is a DhhD Jan 2013 #37
One can only imagine the humiliation of going to the bathroom? RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #40
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