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Ravajava

(93 posts)
24. Interesting thought...
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jan 2013
You're going to grow my ego with that sorta talk

That's a good question...

I guess it really comes down to two things, education and how much the employer values their employees. The heart surgeons extra pay is compensation in a sense for slaving away in school an extra decade. The other thing is that people are paid for skill, as you said. That's not to say that our aforementioned garbage man and McD's employee aren't skilled, nor are they lazy, but its to say that their employers view them as replaceable. A heart surgeon is a bit harder for a hospital to replace, the company wants to retain him. Furthermore, it requires more money to train a heart surgeon than a garbage man or a McD's employee. As I said, garbage men do have an important job, and I honestly don't think McD's employees are fairly paid (seriously, why don't fast food employee's have unions yet?) but I still maintain that the heart surgeon should be paid more.

On your final point, I guess people aren't really paid based off their value to society necessarily, although that plays a role. Many factors culminate to define wages and so on.

Thank's for bringing that up. I'd never really considered that question. It goes back to my belief that discussion isn't about winning, but it's about having your beliefs questioned, and learning why you believe them in a more deep and complex way. And, of course, how to defend your ideas. So keep messing with them (because this 18 year old is such a master of parenting XD)

Why socialism and capitalism must co-exist [View all] AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 OP
Too long to load. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #1
It still does AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 #2
I agree that the dynamic inevitably produces violence the more it approaches extremeness. patrice Jan 2013 #3
Except not everyone is a socialist AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 #4
That's a little to label dependent for me. There are people who are "socialists" whether they patrice Jan 2013 #5
Hi Ravajava Jan 2013 #8
Im not sure either can coexist with nature NoOneMan Jan 2013 #6
Hwy Ravajava Jan 2013 #10
An underlying premise of these economic systems is production NoOneMan Jan 2013 #18
On the odd chance Ravajava Jan 2013 #19
IMO it all depends upon what we call "work" mntleo2 Jan 2013 #7
That guy Ravajava Jan 2013 #9
I really enjoyed your video... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #13
Glad that you liked it! Ravajava Jan 2013 #25
Exactly!! SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #27
Exactly AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 #16
What a smart and thoughtful young man! mntleo2 Jan 2013 #22
Interesting thought... Ravajava Jan 2013 #24
In my view, and in the view of many others... jjewell Jan 2013 #11
Not really AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 #14
Are you confusing socialism with communism? An unfortunately common mistake. stlsaxman Jan 2013 #12
No, he is saying both... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #15
Hegel disagrees. rug Jan 2013 #17
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel? Ravajava Jan 2013 #20
He was a proponent of dialectics. rug Jan 2013 #21
Intersting stuff Ravajava Jan 2013 #23
Sure, we've seen how well that works ... (and it's not because of the socialism) nt TBF Jan 2013 #26
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