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SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
114. You can't win a trolling war against people who don't need to be paid to troll!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jun 2016

Excerpts From:

www.latimes.com/.../la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-201...

Los Angeles Times

Be nice to Hillary Clinton online — or risk a confrontation with her super PAC

David Brock, once a prominent part of what Hillary Clinton described as a "vast right-wing conspiracy" to undermine her husband's presidency, is now a driving force in the effort to get her elected to the White House.
(Danny Johnston / Associated Press)

By Evan Halper

When the Internet’s legions of Hillary hecklers steal away to chat rooms and Facebook pages to vent grievances about Clinton, express revulsion toward Clinton and launch attacks on Clinton, they now may find themselves in a surprising place – confronted by a multimillion dollar super PAC working with Clinton.

Hillary Clinton's well-heeled backers have opened a new frontier in digital campaigning, one that seems to have been inspired by some of the Internet's worst instincts. Correct the Record, a super PAC coordinating with Clinton's campaign, is spending some $1 million to find and confront social media users who post unflattering messages about the Democratic front-runner.

In effect, the effort aims to spend a large sum of money to increase the amount of trolling that already exists online.

The plan comes as Clinton operatives grapple with the reality that her supporters just aren’t as engaged and aggressive online as are her detractors inside and outside the Democratic Party.

The lack of engagement is one of Clinton’s bigger tactical vulnerabilities, particularly when compared with rivals like Donald Trump, whose viral social media attacks are legion, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is backed by a passionate army of media-savvy millennials. etc.......

“It is meant to appear to be coming organically from people and their social media networks in a groundswell of activism, when in fact it is highly paid and highly tactical,” said Brian Donahue, chief executive of the consulting firm Craft Media/Digital.

“That is what the Clinton campaign has always been about," he said. "It runs the risk of being exactly what their opponents accuse them of being: a campaign that appears to be populist but is a smokescreen that is paid and brought to you by lifetime political operatives and high-level consultants.”

The task force designed to stop the spread of online misinformation and misogyny is the brainchild of David Brock, a Clinton confidant who once made a career of spreading such misinformation and misogynistic attacks against her and Bill Clinton. His critics say he kept his taste for dirty tricks when he switched sides to become one of the Clintons’ most valued operatives.

The mere mention of Correct the Record makes some critics seethe. Super PACs are typically prohibited from working in tandem with candidates, but Correct the Record is doing just that by exploiting a loophole in campaign finance law that it says permits such coordination with digital campaigns.

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“Clinton, herself, is saying we need campaign finance reform,” said Paul Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, an advocacy group. “Yet her lawyers are pushing the boundaries to get around campaign finance laws.”

Brock referred questions to Elizabeth Shappell, a spokesperson for the super PAC, who emailed a brief statement saying that Barrier Breakers, as the effort is labeled, "is only engaged in positive content, even when responding to offensive content, and is always identified" as Correct the Record, she wrote. The email also emphasized that Correct the Record is spending the million dollars in a way that it argues is legal under rules governing super PACs.

The reaction to the initiative from supporters of Sanders has been predictable – and it has not been to reconsider their vitriol toward the front-runner.

When actor Tim Robbins was confronted on Twitter after making the dubious assertion that election fraud is robbing Sanders of votes, he accused tweeters who challenged him of being paid shills for Brock. Within an hour, he had directed a variation of the same message at 88 different tweeters:

“Dear @CorrectRecord operatives, Thank you for following today’s talking points. Your check is in the mail. Signed, @davidbrockdc”

Those independent tweeters who challenged Robbins were not on Brock’s payroll. Correct the Record is not paying activists outside the organization to send messages, although it is arming them with instructions, talking points and postable infographics.

If not Hillary, Biden Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #1
So the DNC will 'give' the nomination? An interesting claim. Stay around, learn. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #2
Almost like our votes don't matter, isn't it? nt valerief Jun 2016 #47
Why bother with voting and primaries, democracy's overrated. The corrupt message.. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #52
This kind of corruption and arrogance exercised by the DNC is why so many people do not vote. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #65
Yep, and they certainly seem Not to care if people vote. A very bad sign for democracy, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #121
Straight from MSNBC, CNN, CBS - appalachiablue Jun 2016 #73
Democratic party decides its nominee in a massively undemocratic way. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #104
Bernie already has 46% support of the party Geronimoe Jun 2016 #3
Not really Andy823 Jun 2016 #10
Well, the "Hastert Rule" in the house says that only the majority of the majority party Akamai Jun 2016 #15
you are so desperate larkrake Jun 2016 #31
GASP! You mean there's a danger of expanding the party? The HORROR! nt MisterFred Jun 2016 #46
And in most cases it is not a matter of expanding the party zeemike Jun 2016 #106
Most? So what's your definition of a democrat? KPN Jun 2016 #60
No he doesn't. First, he has only 44% of the vote so far, and that vote count includes... George II Jun 2016 #17
Goodness Gracious, he might expand the party! Stop him, now! nt MisterFred Jun 2016 #48
Well, if what we've seen around here is any indication, the talk is that once Sanders.... George II Jun 2016 #68
*Shrug* MisterFred Jun 2016 #99
It sounds to me like you do not have any idea what this campaign is even about. pangaia Jun 2016 #55
It appears to me you do not have any idea of what I have an idea about. George II Jun 2016 #69
Hillary Is Not Ahead By 3 Million Votes! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #75
Analysts have estimated the "popular" vote in caucus states and added that.... George II Jun 2016 #77
This is a lie that should not be accepted, tolerated or allowed to persist. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #95
Thatis a bogus estimate. KPN Jun 2016 #97
How many less votes does Biden have? n/t ejbr Jun 2016 #6
Do you really think the DNC will persuade SheilaT Jun 2016 #7
Do you really think Biden is any more palatable to Bernie's supporters than Hillary is? djean111 Jun 2016 #18
So it would be fair to give it to Biden Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #85
I'm not aware of any "pending" indictments. 40RatRod Jun 2016 #4
That's the Thing Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #5
He's been running as one. SheilaT Jun 2016 #8
Really! elleng Jun 2016 #41
Sanders bashed the Democratic Party his whole life, only joining it to use it for his Pres. run. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #44
Oh, so now purity is important to you .... KPN Jun 2016 #72
Thanks for saying this, elleng Jun 2016 #80
No, Democrats have never demanded purity, unlike Sanders. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #83
Then get off the Bernie's not a democrat meme. KPN Jun 2016 #94
Why is he running for reelection as an Independent for his Senate seat? SunSeeker Jun 2016 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #86
We can't fix what we can't criticize! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #109
You have freedom of speech and so do I. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #112
All Arlen Specter had to do was change the letter after his name from "R" to "D", bvar22 Jun 2016 #92
Exactly! elleng Jun 2016 #93
The guy has been here one day. pangaia Jun 2016 #57
bs, he IS a Democrat. Duval Jun 2016 #11
Sanders Is Not A Corporate Sellout Thus Not A Democrat Right? scottie55 Jun 2016 #12
one note voices here larkrake Jun 2016 #32
Right elleng Jun 2016 #42
He's Running As One billhicks76 Jun 2016 #23
I was wondering Stryder Jun 2016 #76
He can't run as an independent now because he doesn't have time to get on the ballot jmowreader Jun 2016 #82
Duh...We Weren't Talking About Now billhicks76 Jun 2016 #89
He has been since 2015 Gore1FL Jun 2016 #43
Let's take what you say as true. MisterFred Jun 2016 #49
Who may not be elected dog catcher? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #87
Who "hopes" there is? Duval Jun 2016 #13
A lot of those who hope there is an indictment Andy823 Jun 2016 #14
I haven't seen anyone here "hope" for an indictment. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #22
My Problem With Hillary Is Her Allegiance To Bush billhicks76 Jun 2016 #25
It's quite disturbing I agree. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #33
Clinton Loves George Bush billhicks76 Jun 2016 #35
You know it, Texas and Arkansas best buds.. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #36
Barry Seal to the Bush family and the Medellin Cartel SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #111
Isn't there a movie coming out soon about Barry Seal? wildbilln864 Jun 2016 #124
OK I'll bite... pangaia Jun 2016 #59
Give up hope and accept Hillary! OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #19
Stop! appalachiablue Jun 2016 #26
The guy doing the video is nuts! LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #9
Lee's political talents, humor and wit at their best tackling this serious unravelling story. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #21
RT is Putin's propaganda network. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #45
Yeah, but then they started allowing people to cite MSNBC, so why play favorites? MisterFred Jun 2016 #51
Does MSNBC run anything remotely like this... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #67
Yes MisterFred Jun 2016 #98
Somehow I don't think one appearance by JFK, Jr compares all that well to Alex Fucking Jones Major Nikon Jun 2016 #107
Regular watcher of RT are you? MisterFred Jun 2016 #118
Sure, because getting your information from Putin is the gold standard of not-bullshit Major Nikon Jun 2016 #119
You have been reading into what I'm writing. MisterFred Jun 2016 #120
... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #122
Yeah, I'll let you play the role of Simpson in this one. nt MisterFred Jun 2016 #123
Oh hey, from the front page right now. MisterFred Jun 2016 #100
That's it SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #16
I'm done until the primary is done.... dawnie51 Jun 2016 #20
What's the hurry? Fuddnik Jun 2016 #24
Rove Likes Bernie More Than Clinton? billhicks76 Jun 2016 #28
Okay, Ms. Low Post Count. Brock has paid you well. Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #39
What? - Is everyone on Trumps payroll - asiliveandbreathe Jun 2016 #27
One hopes that Republican talking points will vanish from this site on Tuesday. n/t NNadir Jun 2016 #29
Yall dot be too hard on the Bernie Shills Cryptoad Jun 2016 #30
If only the GOP and Bernie people would stop lying! MisterFred Jun 2016 #54
You can't win a trolling war against people who don't need to be paid to troll! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #114
When We Stand Together No Citizen Need Settle For The Lessor Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jun 2016 #34
Amen. 840high Jun 2016 #37
Go where? Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #38
1600 pennsylvania avenue Stryder Jun 2016 #78
Not going to happen... Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #81
Long odds, I'll grant you Stryder Jun 2016 #88
Aesop Rock has also parodied "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" in his song "Coma" from Labor Da SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #115
I'm not sure the words, "Bush lied," have ever passed their lips, either. snot Jun 2016 #40
Seen a conservative and a progressive agree on Bill Maher the other night elmac Jun 2016 #50
This video is on Putin's propaganda network, RT. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #53
Sanders has the support of 90% of. . chknltl Jun 2016 #56
11 more days for people to get on board or get out of the way geek tragedy Jun 2016 #58
anxious for war, are we? vote $hillary! ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #63
LMAO. Fuck Vladimir Putin nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #64
war is not a laughing matter. ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #70
Vladdy has invaded two of his neighbors, and is bombing geek tragedy Jun 2016 #71
you sound like all the other right wingers. have a nice day! ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #79
It is if you are invested in the arms industry. zeemike Jun 2016 #108
of course, you're right. But I was responding to the Putin stupidity. nukes are being pushed up ish of the hammer Jun 2016 #113
There are those with power fantasies. zeemike Jun 2016 #117
"If it weren't for Trump...," Clinton couldn't sell corpo-militarism to us as a good thing... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #61
The emails aren't just zentrum Jun 2016 #62
She's responsible for these serious actions and we're the ones who will suffer appalachiablue Jun 2016 #66
Excellent post. Vinca Jun 2016 #84
And more. zentrum Jun 2016 #90
I saw a Trump super pac commercial that is supposed to go nationwide tomorrow. Vinca Jun 2016 #91
I was amazed zentrum Jun 2016 #96
Hillary is fatally flawed. KPN Jun 2016 #74
Because she isn't lying. DUH. apcalc Jun 2016 #101
In May the Inspector General's Office of the State Dept. issued a report appalachiablue Jun 2016 #103
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV MFM008 Jun 2016 #102
You ought to know! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #116
And the Sun will fall from the sky. wisteria Jun 2016 #105
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