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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
49. Thanks, your experience adds to the cred of your words
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:47 AM
May 2016

I am very sad to agree with all of it.

I remember when Bush (W) was being funny, he was speaking to a room filled with wealthy donors. He said something about how some people called those donors wealthy elites, but that he calls them his base.

I think the corporate wing of the Democratic Party, which is doing everything in its power to assert that it now IS the Democratic Party, has fallen to that level, where their base is no longer the average voter who wants so-called progressive policy as security from the ravages of untempered capitalism, their base is now the wealthy donor class and their policies are the ones the donor class wants, nothing more.

As to the rest of us, as this Nevada incident and countless others show, they really do want to smash us. They'd much rather have us join the unorganized and disempowered ranks of the unaffiliated independents than have us working to reform the party from within.

I think we should not make that choice, it's what they want and it gives us nothing. We need to work within the party, and kick ass, not settling for corporate policies, or we need to get very serious and start a competing party from the left that organizes with all of the urgency our situation demands. We can probably do both things simultaneously until a new party has a real primary, or until we get power back from the corporate Democrats.

I don't think I've ever seen anything from Skinner to suggest he is an ally of actual progressive reform, the corporate wing of the party is where it's at for him (I'd love to be wrong but there's too much evidence) so as well as looking hard at what party to work with, we need to look equally hard at what web home to use. I suggest one whose ownership is an ally rather than an adversary.

It's going to get worse before it gets better, but as you said, the battle is joined. Thanks for your posts, I often enjoy them.

Senator Boxer deserves better than that Jack Rabbit May 2016 #1
I disagree dreamnightwind May 2016 #21
+100000 azmom May 2016 #25
+100,001 pangaia May 2016 #29
She has been uncompromising MFM008 May 2016 #34
Wait what? northernsouthern May 2016 #53
Yup, voted for her many times, & I've had it with her and Corporate Democrats. Peace Patriot May 2016 #48
Thanks, your experience adds to the cred of your words dreamnightwind May 2016 #49
+1,000,001 dchill May 2016 #55
Civility is over rated. Delver Rootnose May 2016 #2
Brilliant. The establishment has no need to raise a ruckus. merrily May 2016 #54
Civility is inexcusable in the face of... dchill May 2016 #56
Only in Bernieland RandySF May 2016 #3
I don't think she is a sell-out. Silver_Witch May 2016 #18
Boxer's lost my respect Plucketeer May 2016 #31
I agree with you my friend. Silver_Witch May 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF May 2016 #45
Their ethics have been assuaged with $$$ dchill May 2016 #58
I have heard Barbara Boxer give a really inspiring speech. JDPriestly May 2016 #41
hmm, why does she feel the need to take such a defensive posture? newthinking May 2016 #4
She's as clueless as the rest... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #7
All I can say is, no wonder Democrats have a problem in Congress if that is the way JDPriestly May 2016 #42
Some time ago, I might have been disappointed, too... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #46
What poor leadership skill. She did the azmom May 2016 #26
Wow! MrMickeysMom May 2016 #5
In three minutes Boxer destroyed the respect I've had for her for 25 years tularetom May 2016 #6
Truly Disgusting..! Boxer was a Hero to the Left Dem...years ago.. KoKo May 2016 #8
its ok barbara this particular subset of the crowds will be gone soon nt msongs May 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #10
Stalinist? You obviously belong over at free republic. liberalnarb May 2016 #14
We will soon be reminded that only the Dem brand matters. cprise May 2016 #47
Wow! The unbelievable arrogance!! shakedown1970 May 2016 #11
Ouch! kadaholo May 2016 #12
If "they" have this thing won, why so hysterical Babs? nt Purveyor May 2016 #13
The pretty much dead silence after she said Hillary would win was telling Hydra May 2016 #20
She wants them to accept it, cheer for it, & move on like nothing happened. pacalo May 2016 #24
Wow she is mad. Wonder why? Silver_Witch May 2016 #15
Ya, that civil rights fighter comment was weird and out of place Hydra May 2016 #19
I think her term was elmac May 2016 #33
If Hillary wants the votes of us Bernie supporters, she sure has a strange way of showing it. JDPriestly May 2016 #43
Barbara must have slept through the late 60's. jalan48 May 2016 #16
... Hydra May 2016 #17
Say whatever makes you feel better about supporting the chicanery, Barbara. pacalo May 2016 #22
That was disgusting, thanks, I guess dreamnightwind May 2016 #23
She is lucky it was not worse, some may say she may have gotten off easy. coffeeAM May 2016 #27
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo azmom May 2016 #28
What's she doing in NV. In Ca I've never seen her south or east of LA. stuffmatters May 2016 #30
Just One Senator was needed ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #32
The silence, as usual, is deafening. n/t Hydra May 2016 #35
Yup, although not unexpected ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #38
Congressman Sanders was with the CBC for that. Scootaloo May 2016 #59
Boxer and the establishment is imploding Geronimoe May 2016 #37
They are planning to do Republican things, no mandate needed for that Hydra May 2016 #39
I wish I didn't watch the video yeoman6987 May 2016 #40
How well I remember Iwillnevergiveup May 2016 #44
What Meltdown? Hairy Harry Potlover May 2016 #50
Barbara Boxer Gloria Steinemed© herself. merrily May 2016 #51
You don't go to a day where they are still figuring out the totals and lobby for one candidate or highprincipleswork May 2016 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #57
Please point out the sexism or misogyny in the video. shakedown1970 May 2016 #60
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