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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
22. No, but I am willing to put matters in perspective
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:54 PM
Aug 2013

For me, the important thing is to end the mass surveillance, not to prosecute this or that individual.

I'm really pretty sore about this whole mess and I feel like I've been taken for a sucker by a fellow who had me believing as long as six years ago that he would reverse much of the wrongdoing of the Bush junta. On the plus side: he ended the war against Iraq; will end the war in Afghanistan, although taking more time to do so than necessary; killed Osama bin Laden, the man responsible for the September 11 attacks; succeeded in getting Congress to pass the Affordable Care Act, although it is much weaker than it could have been; signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act into law; and he made a series of maneuvers that has resulted in giant steps toward the goal of equality for gay and lesbian Americans. While Guantánamo remains open, the President wants to close it and has been prevented from doing so by obstinate congressional Republicans who will be judged even more harshly by history than President Obama for what follows.

On the minus side: Obama has aided and abetted the war criminals from the Bush junta in escaping justice; he has committed war crimes in his own right though the careless use of predator drones against suspected terrorists without regard to collateral damage (i.e., the deaths of noncombatants); he has continued the mass surveillance of private communications of American citizens begun under the Bush junta with only cosmetic "reforms"; he has signed into law a measure that allows him to abrogate any person's right to due process of law; he has punished individuals for exposing war crimes, acts of terror and torture while acting in the official capacity as agents of the United States, while taking no action against or even rewarding those whose crimes were exposed; he has aided and abetted the Wall Street criminals who crashed the world economy not only in escaping justice but in gaining greater power over the lives of common people whose trust they betrayed than they had before; he has sent negotiators to secret meetings aimed at agreeing on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal that will end the national sovereignty of any nation foolish enough to sign it and set up a court to levy fines against any signatory nation that fails to bring its laws into compliance with TPP standards in matters concerning consumer safety, labor rights and environmental protection.

It remains to be seen whether the President will push Congress to ratify the TPP or approve the Keystone Pipeline, both of which would also count on the minus side.

K/R Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #1
''...if the spying stops.'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #5
So who is going to arrest Mr. Clapper? Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #8
This is a fictional version of what must be done...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #9
LOL. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #12
The question should be WHEN MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #18
No, but I am willing to put matters in perspective Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #22
Good accounting of Obama... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #24
Excellent synopsis of the current situation Jack Rabbit... jjewell Aug 2013 #25
He had to have been ordered to keep his trap shut. Isn't he just a pawn? NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #2
Then the ''orderer'' would also be guilty of conspiracy to lie to Congress. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #6
This Mainstream-Center FDR Democrat agrees. bvar22 Aug 2013 #3
I hear ya. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #7
K & R n/t xocet Aug 2013 #4
No one should have that much power. BillyRibs Aug 2013 #10
Any power they have is ours..... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #11
This I know, But BillyRibs Aug 2013 #13
“Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else.” ~George Orwell, 1984 n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #14
Nice sentiments, But I'm a Cynic BillyRibs Aug 2013 #15
That's a good way to end up on the wrong side of one, BillyRibs... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #19
Low count does not mean Low IQ! BillyRibs Aug 2013 #20
Didn't think the two were supposed to be correlated... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #21
Arrest the SOG! K & R! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #16
Best TYT clip I've seen in a while. Quantess Aug 2013 #17
Yes it is. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #23
The responsibility for enforcing lying to Congress lies with the body itself, not law enforcement Coyotl Aug 2013 #26
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