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In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: So Much For Self Defense [View all]DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)75. I am very busy missing the show what happened???
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Good find. There are a lot of gun cultists who consider Zimmerman commited a "justified" homicide.
Hoyt
Apr 2013
#1
Now with the "Shoot First Ask Questions Later" - I mean, "Stand Your Ground" laws
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#14
Defending the NRA position is unthinkable. Are you a Zimmerman fan? "No one is going to shoot
firenewt
Apr 2013
#70
Cherry-picking information to support your fetish with guns doesn't help you.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2013
#149
Having a gun in the home increases your chance of a gun death many times over.
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#3
Bill....the numbers are different because the 2 studies use different methodology.
Alva Goldbook
Apr 2013
#48
US DoJ shows the vast majority of lawful defensive gun uses do not involve fatalities.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#7
From the report cited in another reply. I guess we can all cite stats as needed.
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#12
My point is that the number used in the OP is wildly low and the Kleck study wildly high. The
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#37
Actually, including all sets of numbers, I suspect the cost would roll AGAINST the use of firearms.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#81
I'm not buying the lethal use of force metric as the only one that qualifies. That's not being
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#84
I think the OP is using an extremely strict metric in making his point. In the interest of fairness
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#92
I view it (at a minmum) as 108k that did not suffer an attack on their person or worse, death.
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#107
I opt on the side of owning firearms, but expecting reasonable regulation of that ownership.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#112
If I brandish a shotgun at an armed intruder and stop them from assaulting my family, that is
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#98
How on God's green planet do you come to the conclusion that I support the unrestricted
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#105
I'll reserve judgement on your intent here. But suffice it to say that you have misrepresented my
SlimJimmy
Apr 2013
#114
Gunners love to cherry pick that 1997 survey, without disclosing the report's conclusion
SunSeeker
Apr 2013
#13
Per capita violent assault comparisons to other G20 nations are not... favorable to us.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2013
#23
Wrong. The US has lower rape and assault rates than many gun-free countries.
Alva Goldbook
Apr 2013
#55
Yeah, I'd bet the unintentional shootings are far more likely to be fatal than the intential ones.
enki23
Apr 2013
#119
Your last sentence is something that some of us want to consider, but, as there SHOULD be in any
patrice
Apr 2013
#73
Yes. And 390k from smoking, 49k from second hand smoke alone - that one always gets me.
geckosfeet
Apr 2013
#115
You might feel safer still if you duct tape pillows to all the sharp corners of your furniture.
IveWornAHundredPants
Apr 2013
#121
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise - Will The Gun Violence Fallacies Never End
cantbeserious
Apr 2013
#120
There are some crazy people who think that ALL the gun-related deaths are bad!
IveWornAHundredPants
Apr 2013
#128
What's more "self defense" than defending yourself against yourself?
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#137
Thanks EarlG! This kind of post sure rings the dinner bell for the gungions.
FailureToCommunicate
Apr 2013
#138