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roseBudd

(8,718 posts)
2. No, have you seen Slum Dog Millionaire?
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 09:34 AM
Nov 2013

Are you aware that there are not roads everywhere that VAD, Vitamin A deficiency is endemic.

The WHO currently spends millions on twice yearly vitamin A supplements for children, but are unable to reach all, as evident by the death toll.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24417-golden-rice-creator-wants-to-live-to-see-it-save-lives.html

Why couldn't children just be given vitamin A capsules, or other foods that contain it?
The capsules are already being given through programmes of the World Health Organization and charities such as Hellen Keller International. They've been running the programmes for 15 years, but they cost tens of millions of dollars a year. The problem is that besides the expense, you need the infrastructure to distribute the capsules. We're aiming for people who can't be reached this way, poor farmers in remote places.

As for the possibility of eating foods that supply vitamin A, such as liver, leafy green vegetables and eggs, the people we're targeting are too poor to buy them. Some kitchen garden projects provide them, but despite these interventions we still have 6000 children dying every day. These are not enough. Our aim is to complement, not replace these programmes.

There's a project in Uganda and Mozambique to combat vitamin A deficiency by supplying sweet potatoes conventionally bred to contain extra beta-carotene. Over two years it doubled vitamin A intake in women and children compared with those who ate conventional sweet potatoes. Could this be done with rice?
Sweet potatoes naturally contain beta-carotene, so you can use traditional breeding to improve the content. Rice contains no beta-carotene, so it's impossible to introduce it without genetic engineering. Because the sweet potato project does not involve genetic modification, Greenpeace doesn't complain about it despite the aim being identical to ours. But the experience with sweet potatoes shows that what we're trying to achieve with rice is realistic. As soon as people get the potatoes, it improves their vitamin A status.


Last year, didn't you finally obtain the proof you needed to show that Golden Rice provides enough vitamin A?
It was a long experiment by a group at Tufts University with colleagues from China. The outcome was fantastic. It was basically as good as it could be, with every 2.3 grams of beta-carotene eaten in the rice producing 1 gram of vitamin A in the bloodstream, close to the theoretical maximum. This is four times better than the conversion from spinach, in which the children had to eat 7 to 8 grams to make each gram of vitamin A in blood...

The UK environment minister Owen Paterson has now weighed into this debate by describing opposition to Golden Rice as wicked. Is this a moral tipping point that will potentially win emotional support for Golden Rice?
Unfortunately, there's an enormous majority against genetic modification in Europe, so the brave UK minister will have lots of enemies. But he deserves support from wherever possible. I'm optimistic we've maybe reached a tipping point in Britain, and that's something. But I'm not confident the "wicked" accusation will change the attitudes of Greenpeace supporters in Europe. Even Greenpeace founder Patrick Moore now supports Golden Rice and has accused Greenpeace of crimes against humanity for opposing it, but no one cares.
can't we add some carrots to that daily cupa rice? Sunlei Nov 2013 #1
No, have you seen Slum Dog Millionaire? roseBudd Nov 2013 #2
I take your point dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #51
Have you looked into the licensing terms of the patents? jberryhill Nov 2013 #3
I can assure you I have roseBudd Nov 2013 #6
Yeah, you skipped a step there jberryhill Nov 2013 #7
Vitamin A interventions to date roseBudd Nov 2013 #4
Vitamin A deficiency roseBudd Nov 2013 #5
Doing some googling indicates the question is nowhere near as clear as stated above. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #8
The misinformation is rife. I can Google all kinds of false things roseBudd Nov 2013 #9
Greenpeace Hysteria Campaign Scares Chinese into Retreat on Nutrition-Enhancing GMO 'Golden Rice' roseBudd Nov 2013 #10
If you don't know how to find your way through the disinformation, that is. HuckleB Nov 2013 #43
Is there a shortage of food? dtom67 Nov 2013 #11
Why calling someone a shill betrays the weakness of your position, and your inability to defend it roseBudd Nov 2013 #13
Would you consider answering the question of how much a farmer can sell? jberryhill Nov 2013 #19
Monsanto can afford to send all roody Nov 2013 #12
These kids who are suffering from VAD, don't receive mail from Amazon roseBudd Nov 2013 #14
Which company holds the patent for it? roody Nov 2013 #16
Link to licensing program in thread above jberryhill Nov 2013 #18
I am not resting assured. roody Nov 2013 #21
Yeah who gives a shit how many die roseBudd Nov 2013 #24
Excuse me? jberryhill Nov 2013 #27
Just admit you don't give a shit about the morbidity and mortality due to VAD roseBudd Nov 2013 #35
I contribute to several honestly roody Nov 2013 #36
I hope some day you learn to actually care about people jberryhill Nov 2013 #38
Well, we know you don't care about anything but defending fictions. HuckleB Nov 2013 #45
And what fiction would that be? jberryhill Nov 2013 #47
And which logical fallacy are you using here, smarty pants? HuckleB Nov 2013 #44
I asked a question jberryhill Nov 2013 #48
Do you have an answer or not? jberryhill Nov 2013 #52
To me, the anti-GM folks are pretty much the same as the anti-vaccine folks. Pterodactyl Nov 2013 #15
They use the same logical fallacies roseBudd Nov 2013 #22
Please identify my "logical fallacy" jberryhill Nov 2013 #29
Yep johnd83 Nov 2013 #26
I have no problem with GM food whatsoever jberryhill Nov 2013 #28
Thank you for beating the drum on this issue.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #40
It's hardly rhetorical jberryhill Nov 2013 #49
It's a shame too.... BronxBoy Nov 2013 #50
They're exactly the same. HuckleB Nov 2013 #46
I didn't Know, BillyRibs Nov 2013 #17
There is no shortage here. roody Nov 2013 #20
So no argument that isn't a logical fallacy roseBudd Nov 2013 #23
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #42
The Logic is. BillyRibs Nov 2013 #25
Anything written by Patrick Moore should be discarded out of hand PaulaFarrell Nov 2013 #30
Wow - that Keystone XL article is dated April 2013, but in January 2013 the First Nations signed ... bananas Nov 2013 #34
Oh My god - he's also a climate change denier PaulaFarrell Nov 2013 #31
:puke: bananas Nov 2013 #33
That was a depressing read NickB79 Nov 2013 #39
good ol sourcewatch PaulaFarrell Nov 2013 #32
Wow - Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2013 #37
More like "so much for 'sourcewatch.'" HuckleB Nov 2013 #41
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