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13. If it was pure heroin...

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:54 PM

Feb 2014

...then I agree the dealer is not liable. However, if it turns out to be the recent and deadly fentanyl laced heroin, I think the dealer should be held accountable.

Some of the heroin on the streets right now is 50% fentanyl; a lethal mixture with a growing list of dead bodies behind it. Previously known as 'China White', this tainted heroin is known to be sold in glassine bags like those found in Phillip Seymour Hoffman's home.

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NYPD hunting for Hoffman’s heroin dealer after 70 bags found [View all] onehandle Feb 2014 OP

I hope they find the dealer! In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #1

Why? he didn't MAKE him do it. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #4

Are you making a case for legalizing the sale of heroin? savalez Feb 2014 #6

Not really. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #7

That seems like a lot of heroin. savalez Feb 2014 #9

When you can afford 10k a months for rent! mikeysnot Feb 2014 #14

I find it hard to be compassionate for people who have it all and then waste it away. YOHABLO Feb 2014 #68

Thank you. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #82

They Are People Just Like Us erpowers Feb 2014 #100

Please. Addiction is a disease, not some character flaw Doctor_J Feb 2014 #111

People who "have it all" are not better than people who don't. Lex Feb 2014 #120

If I were a junkie, and I OD'ed, and the cops found that much junk in my home, olddad56 Feb 2014 #17

They don't know anything yet...... ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #19

thanks Einstien, for clearing that up for me. olddad56 Feb 2014 #61

Anytime. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #70

they must be for you, if you think having 70 seperate bags of herion .. olddad56 Feb 2014 #76

For sale or consumption? awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #117

you don't really know that. olddad56 Feb 2014 #126

Not totally sure but I think the general rule is, nilesobek Feb 2014 #115

Whether he was selling some to others or not, he must have had a dealer hughee99 Feb 2014 #79

That did cross my mind... savalez Feb 2014 #94

It sure looks that way to me if that's true. It might be more like buddy deals that a real dealer brewens Feb 2014 #101

That's Not RobinA Feb 2014 #104

Wow savalez Feb 2014 #105

In My Experience RobinA Feb 2014 #107

I don't understand why so much Scairp Feb 2014 #114

I will: do you want to save lives or feel morally superior? Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #10

I agree somewhat.... ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #20

all heroin is "laced". Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #46

You're right, let's sit around reflecting. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #71

The dealers and their defenders are immoral Renew Deal Feb 2014 #27

You are looking at it exactly backwards Major Nikon Feb 2014 #39

It's already illegal Renew Deal Feb 2014 #40

So is collecting rainwater in certain areas Major Nikon Feb 2014 #44

So that is a vote for more harm and smug moral superiority. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #48

Learn to spell it first.. sendero Feb 2014 #83

I did? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #86

Heroine is a female hero... sendero Feb 2014 #87

You're right Renew Deal Feb 2014 #91

very well stated. I agree with you. olddad56 Feb 2014 #62

perfect sense.. stillcool Feb 2014 #110

I think all drugs should be legalized Major Nikon Feb 2014 #28

All drugs? Revanchist Feb 2014 #43

yes. By the way meth was legal for decades without major social or medical or environmental problems Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #52

Meth is STILL legal. It's a Schedule II drug. Desoxyn is the brand name. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #69

well yes. Prior to the early 70s it was widely available and prescribed. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #89

It does Major Nikon Feb 2014 #80

A case could be made for the decriminalization of heroin, but we as a nation are not ready. olddad56 Feb 2014 #57

Agreed RobinA Feb 2014 #106

thanks, I appreicate you sharing your expereince. olddad56 Feb 2014 #112

that`s an interesting statement madrchsod Feb 2014 #12

That is new defense from the governments perspective Renew Deal Feb 2014 #25

If it was pure heroin... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #13

Good point! red dog 1 Feb 2014 #33

Me too.. whathehell Feb 2014 #55

His dealer has blood on his hands Renew Deal Feb 2014 #24

Unless he IS the dealer... dbackjon Feb 2014 #26

Are you suggesting he manufactured it? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #29

Who knows. dbackjon Feb 2014 #30

You're blaming the victim Renew Deal Feb 2014 #37

With drug use, I have a hard time calling anyone a victim dbackjon Feb 2014 #49

until it is your kid. olddad56 Feb 2014 #63

That would not change anything dbackjon Feb 2014 #67

No more so than any dealer of addictive substances. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #72

Which the article says it may have been BainsBane Feb 2014 #50

First it is donnasgirl Feb 2014 #59

and the dealer who dealt the heroin to the dealer and the dealer who dealt the dealer.. olddad56 Feb 2014 #66

This sounds like a lot of smack even for a junkie riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #2

He was a non-custodial parent it would seem. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #5

I guess I should just say that it appears PSH may have been dealing riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #18

I would hope he would have made a good enough living from his work CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #21

70 bags just sounds like a lot to have immediately after coming off 23 years sober riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #23

He wasn't 23 years sober tammywammy Feb 2014 #31

Yeah, I know. I was just lazily quoting what I read in the news riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #35

I've never been around drug use tammywammy Feb 2014 #38

Okay.. whathehell Feb 2014 #56

It just seems to imply that he just now relapsed. tammywammy Feb 2014 #65

Okay, I just wanted to confirm the fact that he was clean for at least 20 years.. whathehell Feb 2014 #75

Very sad that he relapsed a year or so ago. tammywammy Feb 2014 #88

Tragic..His family is devastated and people like me, whathehell Feb 2014 #99

70 Bags RobinA Feb 2014 #108

There are incredible discounts for buying in quantity creeksneakers2 Feb 2014 #113

ture, but if he bought it in quanity, most likely it would not have already have been packaged.. olddad56 Feb 2014 #116

That is absurd speculation. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #74

Ok. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #78

Depends on just how long his relapse has been... Earth_First Feb 2014 #92

Thanks. That's the info I was interested in - what is "normal" for a heroin addict riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #95

I would assume that rich and famous alsame Feb 2014 #3

... handmade34 Feb 2014 #8

How about "dead" Oscar-winning actor, then? frazzled Feb 2014 #16

I agree and my first reaction is that I was pissed. glinda Feb 2014 #64

SEVENTY bags? That's possession with intent to sell, isn't it? rocktivity Feb 2014 #11

yes it is...here in illinois any amount in separate bags is sales. madrchsod Feb 2014 #15

I'm in IL which is why I was wondering if he's the dealer because of the separate baggies riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #32

Junkies using Marketing Brand Names like Big Pharma bucolic_frolic Feb 2014 #22

They need to start arresting doctors who get people hooked on pain meds. bravenak Feb 2014 #34

Do you really believe that doctors try to get people addicted to opiates? Liberal Veteran Feb 2014 #41

Yes. bravenak Feb 2014 #45

Ooooo-kay Liberal Veteran Feb 2014 #51

I've known TERMINALLY ILL people who couldn't get enough pain meds LeftyMom Feb 2014 #96

I didn't state it well. bravenak Feb 2014 #97

BS. After my surgery I 840high Feb 2014 #103

I Broke RobinA Feb 2014 #109

Really? bravenak Feb 2014 #119

No they don't. MicaelS Feb 2014 #42

I'm glad you said that. bravenak Feb 2014 #53

that is interesting. olddad56 Feb 2014 #102

JFC! no. We need to have sane drug policies that don't criminalize use. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #54

I know. I shouldn't troll like that. bravenak Feb 2014 #60

well it could be more complicated than that reddread Feb 2014 #93

another daily heroin user killed by the fentanyl drug switched for heroin? Sunlei Feb 2014 #36

He was a heroin addict, there's no doubt about that, but.... red dog 1 Feb 2014 #47

+1000 n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #58

He had 70 bags in his apt? SoCalNative Feb 2014 #73

I wonder how many non-celebrities die of drug overdoses every day in NYC. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #77

Anyone read the article about Silk Road mimi85 Feb 2014 #81

Prescriptions erpowers Feb 2014 #125

Maybe Hoffman was the dealer Warpy Feb 2014 #84

Doesn't seem like an unusual amount for a junkie with means. Cobalt Violet Feb 2014 #85

seems like that would increase your tolerance? reddread Feb 2014 #90

Number Keeps Going Up erpowers Feb 2014 #98

what they call 'bags' are the little, tiny, quarter gram? glassine envelopes. Sunlei Feb 2014 #118

One Bag RobinA Feb 2014 #122

Thanks for sharing, Robin! Gerhard28 Feb 2014 #123

Thanks For the Information erpowers Feb 2014 #124

Special treatment for the rich seveneyes Feb 2014 #121