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42. The tradition of St. Nikolaus giving gifts to children on Dec. 6 was absolutely Dutch.

Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:08 AM

Dec 2013

Turkey had nothing to do with that tradition. I have some Dutch ancestry and lived in Europe. I have never heard of a Turkish custom that St. Nikolaus gave gifts at Christmas.

The original St. Nikolaus may have been Turkish, but the custom is Dutch and the depictions of St. Nikolaus are Dutch and spread across Europe.

In Austria, St. Nikolaus comes on Dec. 6 with a companion, Krampus. Krampus is quite a nasty guy.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/world/krampus-story-austrias-terrifying-christmas-tradit/ncFSX/

For pictures of Krampus (no specific color or race, in fact he comes in all colors and races):

https://www.google.com/search?q=austria+krampus&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iyKrUoJ9kuugBP2OgdgD&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=504

It's a very strange custom.

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