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17. Too many NSLs from the sound of it. But I don't see that this endangers libraries.

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:56 PM

Dec 2013

"In addition, 1,745 FISA applications were approved in 2011, none of which were rejected..." That's a tautological statement.

And the amendments of 2009 added additional protections. Good.

I agree the metadata could be used in not-so-likeable ways. But there are processes in place to prevent that. Carl Bernstein said it sounded to him as if the NSA has strong protections in place and I agree with that.

If we want to stop the metadata collection, we need to change the law that allows for it because right now it is not against the law and any law enforcement agency will do its utmost to push the envelope of what's allowed and not allowed.
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Libraries fear 'ravenous' NSA [View all] Indi Guy Dec 2013 OP

How stupid... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #1

This is all just speculative fear-mongering, nothing more. randome Dec 2013 #2

Speculation?! Indi Guy Dec 2013 #3

I am not saying to trust blindly any governmental organization. Not at all. randome Dec 2013 #9

On further thought, it seems that I was wrong... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #13

What precautions can they take, though? Pass a law that forbids the NSA from spying on them? randome Dec 2013 #16

Why are you so concerned that Americans are paying attention to their spy agencies Maedhros Dec 2013 #5

Accuracy is important to me. randome Dec 2013 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Indi Guy Dec 2013 #10

Accuracy, or semantics? Maedhros Dec 2013 #12

Not at all. randome Dec 2013 #15

Exactly. Defund the NSA and get the Republicans out of it. Ash_F Dec 2013 #28

+1. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #6

As for your spurious "speculative fear mongering" statement... Maedhros Dec 2013 #11

Too many NSLs from the sound of it. But I don't see that this endangers libraries. randome Dec 2013 #17

The first step to changing the law is to call attention to those parts that are unacceptable. Maedhros Dec 2013 #18

No one is spying on libraries that we know of so what is there to call attention to? randome Dec 2013 #21

"That we know of" is part of the problem. Maedhros Dec 2013 #23

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #4

Thanks Joe. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #7

You are missing the fact that there is no evidence of the NSA Progressive dog Dec 2013 #14

There is massive evidence of recent NSA spying on libraries. Maedhros Dec 2013 #24

NSL stands for 'National Security Letter', not 'National Surveillance on Librarians'. randome Dec 2013 #26

If you read the article at the link Maedhros Dec 2013 #33

You're missing complacency, Indi Guy, some people are comfortable in waiting for the government Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #20

Tax Payer$ So Called Budget 2012 (NIP)53.9 billion (MIP)21.5 billion = 75.4 billion mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #19

Prying eyes, and all blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #22

What really endangers libraries nilesobek Dec 2013 #25

Shhhhhhhhh! n/t Alkene Dec 2013 #27

Seems like a lot of worry that you're unfairly singling out the NSA. Pholus Dec 2013 #29

K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #30

Nonsense. Leave the NSA alone! jsr Dec 2013 #31

EFF PasadenaTrudy Dec 2013 #32

From what I've seen... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #34