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17. Maybe. But I might guess there were police reports on her suicide attempts or on her 2012 behavior,

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Fri Nov 29, 2013, 06:32 PM

Nov 2013

even if there were no arrests: such material is shared between the US and Canada

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Canadian woman refused U.S. entry because of depression [View all] CHIMO Nov 2013 OP

this is seriously messed up Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #1

She should have flown from Toronto to Havana instead warrant46 Nov 2013 #54

What we know so far: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #68

ok, that sounds like a different situation altogether Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #69

Always there to justify state repression, are you? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #79

The language of the current law seems to appear in amendments to struggle4progress Nov 2013 #81

The border agents fucked over this lady. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #83

If the issue is worth discussing, it's worth trying to root out the underlying facts, isn't it? struggle4progress Nov 2013 #86

The law is one thing; what's right is another. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #92

An Ontario group has a website devoted to this issue: struggle4progress Dec 2013 #94

Yes indeed. Shame! The very nerve of some people - LTX Dec 2013 #93

Soooooo stealing that....nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #95

"she missed her flight to New York City and a Caribbean cruise, for which she had paid $6,000". BlueJazz Nov 2013 #2

People like to assume there's this dangerous, monolithic entity called The Mentally Ill. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #10

Especially rickyhall Nov 2013 #27

... People also like defining "mental illness" as "anything I don't like." (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #33

They may have figured there was a chance that while in the US she'd make yet another suicide attempt struggle4progress Nov 2013 #13

Oh, and they thought making her miss an ocean cruise would cheer her up? Ken Burch Nov 2013 #18

In my reading, 8 USC § 1182 places no special emphasis on Canadians: it simply says struggle4progress Nov 2013 #32

Thank You CHIMO Nov 2013 #36

I don't see any actual relation of this to NAFTA. The question, whether US authorities received struggle4progress Nov 2013 #42

OK CHIMO Nov 2013 #43

This is the law enforcement and administrative overreach campaign...... Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #39

She is a paraplegic from what I am reading below Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #41

Yes, she's paraplegic because she critically injured herself in one of her various suicide attempts struggle4progress Nov 2013 #44

Then why had she been allowed to travel via the U.S. three times previously polly7 Nov 2013 #45

It's simply a fact that such an argument won't fly in any court. She should just seek struggle4progress Nov 2013 #46

She had no idea she NEEDED a waiver. polly7 Nov 2013 #47

Of course, if she had a crummy travel insurance policy, that is an entirely separate matter, struggle4progress Nov 2013 #48

She 'alleges'. polly7 Nov 2013 #49

As we seem to have exhausted topics to discuss, I'll just wish you a pleasant day and move along struggle4progress Nov 2013 #50

Oh I got that a while ago when you refused to answer anything that didn't go along with polly7 Nov 2013 #51

QED struggle4progress Nov 2013 #53

May I CHIMO Nov 2013 #52

The feds on both sides got themselves a "database" Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #40

They might have been concerned Ms Richardson would attempt or commit suicide in the US, struggle4progress Nov 2013 #73

I understand but tonight 325 people will sneak across our borders and (probably).. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #74

Sickening. polly7 Nov 2013 #3

then how the fuck do republcan members of congress retain the ability to fly anywhere dembotoz Nov 2013 #4

Woo, four replies before the first "mental illness = politics I dislike" post. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #9

Is she the author of "Hope for the Heavy Heart: For the War-Weary and the Heaven-bent"? struggle4progress Nov 2013 #5

The woman denied entry does seem to live in Ontario: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #11

Ummm ...yeah, it's the same woman. polly7 Nov 2013 #12

" ... Previous to her hospitalization in 2012, Richardson had attempted suicide in 2001 ..." struggle4progress Nov 2013 #14

Apparently that wasn't a problem. polly7 Nov 2013 #20

Dunno. I've only heard her version of events. As I read the law, mental illness alone struggle4progress Nov 2013 #24

Well of course, the 'mentally ill' woman has to be lying. polly7 Nov 2013 #25

Huh? I just pointed out to you that US law makes no such presumption about the mentally-ill struggle4progress Nov 2013 #26

She's traveled through the U.S. three times successfully since 2001 polly7 Nov 2013 #28

As I said, I've only heard her version of events. I have no idea what her 2012 hospitalization struggle4progress Nov 2013 #35

Why would she think this entry would be any different than the three prior polly7 Nov 2013 #37

She attempted to poison herself in 2012, and a relative called emergency services, which probably struggle4progress Nov 2013 #64

I've taken quite a few people, actually, in to the ER for suicide attempts. polly7 Nov 2013 #65

Read the link I provided: you will see the theory, that the ambulance call produced a police record struggle4progress Nov 2013 #66

The 'theory'. polly7 Nov 2013 #67

Well, her version is becoming more complete as time passes: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #71

And? polly7 Nov 2013 #72

For a definitive discussion of what Canadian authorities may have shared with US authorities, struggle4progress Nov 2013 #75

Good for you. polly7 Nov 2013 #76

Bonne chance! struggle4progress Nov 2013 #77

Hey .... I realize it's no biggie when you're not the one having to be concerned about it. polly7 Nov 2013 #78

8 USC § 1182 struggle4progress Nov 2013 #6

For a TRANSIT 'Visa???' elleng Nov 2013 #30

Canadians almost never need a visa to enter the US. It's my understanding struggle4progress Nov 2013 #34

Canadian woman denied entry to U.S. because of suicide attempt (2011) struggle4progress Nov 2013 #7

The facts, so far as I have been able to determine, seem to be these: struggle4progress Nov 2013 #8

I guess that border agent must have read her book, and has a fantastic memory. polly7 Nov 2013 #15

Maybe. But I might guess there were police reports on her suicide attempts or on her 2012 behavior, struggle4progress Nov 2013 #17

Thank you. nt kristopher Nov 2013 #16

thanks for all the research and facts treestar Nov 2013 #55

I expect there will always be more than many very good reasons for anti-government outrage; struggle4progress Nov 2013 #58

Hmmm...looks like another one of "those" stories SoapBox Nov 2013 #19

Exactly what I was 840high Nov 2013 #31

Yeah that's going to help her be not depressed CFLDem Nov 2013 #21

Too bad she wasn't armed. Turbineguy Nov 2013 #22

Now she can be paranoid, too. tclambert Nov 2013 #23

Man I hope they find the person(s) that opened her records rurallib Nov 2013 #29

Maybe nobody opened her records. struggle4progress Nov 2013 #38

clinical depression is an absolutely proper response BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #56

"Mental illness" alone cannot result in exclusion from US border entry: exclusion requires struggle4progress Nov 2013 #59

thanks for that struggle4progress... BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #60

This wouldn't have been an issue if she'd only played her cards right... liberalmuse Nov 2013 #57

Privatization of jobs that used to be handled by provincial government clerical staff arikara Nov 2013 #61

She attempted to poison herself in 2012, and a relative called emergency services, which probably struggle4progress Nov 2013 #62

Punish her! Punish her forever! JackRiddler Nov 2013 #85

The law, as I pointed out upthread, dates to 1952 and was liberalized in 1990 struggle4progress Nov 2013 #87

The surveillance system... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #88

I don't think an involuntary psychiatric hold is confidential Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2013 #63

Accusations .. private health details of Canadians .. shared with U.S. border agents sparks probe struggle4progress Nov 2013 #70

hmmm...so there's a lot of us Americans who might be refused reentry in that case yurbud Nov 2013 #80

She was considered an excludible alien due to her fourth suicide attempt in 2012, not due struggle4progress Nov 2013 #82

A citizen cannot legally be refused re-entry. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #84

how long had it been since the law mattered about anything related to "national security"? yurbud Nov 2013 #89

Once again, a citizen cannot be barred from re-entry. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #90

I think you meant to post that as a reply to someone else or you missed my point yurbud Dec 2013 #91