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27. Why does "Grandpa bought votes for Democrats" sound apocryphal?

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Colorado Shifting to All-Mail Election [View all] brooklynite Oct 2013 OP

Automatic audit trail. bemildred Oct 2013 #1

Explain? brooklynite Oct 2013 #3

Mail is paper. Paper is harder to fudge than magnetic bits. bemildred Oct 2013 #5

CO already had paper ballots, scanned by an OCR machine jeff47 Oct 2013 #6

Right. I'm just explaining about the paper being an audit trail. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #7

Only if you actually audit. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #10

after the fact problems with audits questionseverything Oct 2013 #51

Yep. Once the tally is digitized, it can be manipulated. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #8

Right, I'm arguing against computerization of elections. bemildred Oct 2013 #12

It's our instant gratification culture. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #16

Yes, it seems really immature to me too. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #18

Meanwhile, Texas changes to all-Male elections SaintLouisBlues Oct 2013 #2

You win one Internet. Codeine Oct 2013 #4

dammit, I was just about to say that when I saw yours! Schema Thing Oct 2013 #11

+1. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #20

Texas Voter Suppression brought to whole new level; against all women of the state. DhhD Oct 2013 #24

DUzy. But unfunny. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #29

That was GOOD. I'm proud of you! /nt dballance Oct 2013 #34

Duzy! nt Viva_La_Revolution Oct 2013 #39

White male christx30 Oct 2013 #60

Not a fan. jeff47 Oct 2013 #9

This would have definitely cost Democrats votes in my Grandfather's day. ieoeja Oct 2013 #14

I think the main reason we haven't seen problems in OR yet jeff47 Oct 2013 #23

Why does "Grandpa bought votes for Democrats" sound apocryphal? WinkyDink Oct 2013 #27

I dunno. Why? ieoeja Oct 2013 #37

I dunno - they all sound reasonable to me SnowCritter Oct 2013 #40

My Grandmother still had an unwed Daughter living with her til I was 15. ieoeja Oct 2013 #46

Oh, Hell, NO, I'm not 'from hill country." Funny how it isn't a Republican buying Republican votes, WinkyDink Oct 2013 #75

Maybe you should read it again. The Republican bought the votes first. ieoeja Oct 2013 #80

You'd be surprised at some cities in the olden days Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #58

Disagree. seabeckind Oct 2013 #21

They don't have to intercept the ballot. jeff47 Oct 2013 #25

"Making it known" would be a problem--it wouldn't take much to make it public truebluegreen Oct 2013 #31

Which is why there are no drug dealers. jeff47 Oct 2013 #44

Totally the same. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #56

Well, you're claiming they would be instantly caught. jeff47 Oct 2013 #64

the easiest area to manipulate is the absentee voter questionseverything Oct 2013 #54

I'm going with Oregon and Washington's experience over your depth of knowledge, thanks. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #55

picture worth a thousand words questionseverything Oct 2013 #57

Don't these ballots come with a sleeve that must be signed by a registered voter? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #61

I've just recently voted, and on the back of the envelope BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #79

when election theft is documented questionseverything Oct 2013 #81

Then, whether you go to the polls or vote by mail, BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #82

NO election is safe, right? questionseverything Oct 2013 #83

That would be the gold standard, yes. But is it attainable? I don't know. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #84

you said... questionseverything Oct 2013 #85

Me too.. mail in ballots are best, and more people vote! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #76

I too am opposed to voting by mail. Jenoch Oct 2013 #32

I've never missed an election since Oregon went to all mail elections. It gives my wife neverforget Oct 2013 #47

I don't miss elections and I always go to the polls, like our founding fathers intended. Jenoch Oct 2013 #50

I like to take my time when I'm voting. I have the voters guide in front of me so i can research the neverforget Oct 2013 #53

I too research the issues and the candidates. Jenoch Oct 2013 #59

Not everybody has the time you do. Don't you get that? I don't understand why going to a neverforget Oct 2013 #62

Do you understand what you wrote? Jenoch Oct 2013 #63

Where do I start with this? I completely understand what I wrote. However, you assume everyone is neverforget Oct 2013 #65

You and I both know that most voters do not Jenoch Oct 2013 #66

How much effort should it require to vote? Isn't that a barrier to voting? Why do you think neverforget Oct 2013 #71

Vote by mail has been in effect since 1987 here in Oregon. classof56 Oct 2013 #13

Works AWESOME in Oregon Jessy169 Oct 2013 #15

Yes!!! seabeckind Oct 2013 #17

"Faced with a ballot with stuff on it I had never seen or heard of." Gee, you don't get a local WinkyDink Oct 2013 #28

What's a local paper? seabeckind Oct 2013 #33

after the problems I saw in the last mayoral election here, I do worry. a lot of ballots in the dem niyad Oct 2013 #19

Kick out Gessler. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #38

you are correct about gessler, but the mayoral thing had more to do with the idiot in charge in niyad Oct 2013 #67

Thanks. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #69

you are most welcome--and to think, you are just in time for the insanity of klingenschmidt niyad Oct 2013 #70

Who? Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #72

google "gordon klingenschmidtt" and prepare to be disgusted and appalled. you will probably niyad Oct 2013 #73

"with the option of voting in person" does NOT = "Colorado Shifting to All-Mail Election". WinkyDink Oct 2013 #22

Sounds very interesting to me. ReRe Oct 2013 #26

That's sexist and offensive to those who don't read carefully! hughee99 Oct 2013 #30

At the risk of inciting certain factions Kelvin Mace Oct 2013 #35

Sounds pretty good to me. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #77

We have All Mail here in Oregon. It's great! dballance Oct 2013 #36

B.C. used a mail in ballot for the Harmonized Sales Tax referendum OnlinePoker Oct 2013 #41

So how do the homeless (addressless) vote? n/t eggplant Oct 2013 #42

I love all-mail voting. I always vote by mail here in CT. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #43

un-tabulated ballots justsomeguy01 Oct 2013 #45

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #49

welcome to DU niyad Oct 2013 #68

Here's How You Can Tell If Your Mail Ballot otohara Oct 2013 #74

Oregon has done this for years. SoapBox Oct 2013 #48

decades I believe and they are VERY happy with their system Bandit Oct 2013 #52

Yes -- We all love it. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #86

TX shifting to all male election. longship Oct 2013 #78