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In reply to the discussion: AP source: Israel will keep US out of the loop if it decides to strike Iran’s nuclear program [View all]customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)21. The vast majority of the wars we've been involved in
do not involve existential threats. WWII presented us with Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, both technologically advanced nations that were willing and able to take control of the whole world. We simply have not faced any adversaries of their caliber, except perhaps the Soviet Union, and we solved that problem without going to direct war with them.
There are wars of choice, and wars of necessity. If our leadership did a better job distinguishing between them, we would have avoided Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We could have screwed over al-Queda with a few cruise missiles lobbed in the right direction, and repeated as necessary. Nation-building for people who are NOT ready for democracy is a fool's errand.
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AP source: Israel will keep US out of the loop if it decides to strike Iran’s nuclear program [View all]
villager
Feb 2012
OP
Then the US should tell Israel that there on there own, period. If Russia or China take exception
teddy51
Feb 2012
#1
It sounds like a great idea to me. Israel, if you bomb Iran you are on your own. No money & no help
peacebird
Feb 2012
#28
The Jews who are going to vote for Obama will, those who have already decided they will not
nanabugg
Mar 2012
#66
Good. If Israel thinks the threat is worth their blood and treasure, than they should attack.
napoleon_in_rags
Feb 2012
#5
"...the usual half measures we take when trying to fight a PC war." ??? Please elaborate.
2ndAmForComputers
Feb 2012
#16
True, but he'll also destroy programs like Social Security, Medicare, public education, etc.
Selatius
Mar 2012
#72
Deniability is not plausible, unless you imagine that US intelligence is completely incompetent
FarCenter
Feb 2012
#38
They Will Time the Attack to Cause Maximum Damage to Obama's Re-election Chances
AndyTiedye
Feb 2012
#26
Just like the claims of imminent WW3?(Which is REAL paranoid nonsense, btw.)
AverageJoe90
Mar 2012
#57
He may be no friend but that doesn't amount to conspiracy to affect our elections.
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2012
#60
If RP Were the GOP Nominee, Obama Would Have a Lot More Leverage with Israel
AndyTiedye
Mar 2012
#64
Doesnt matter imo as there will still be unreasonable people who bash the US and claim its still
cstanleytech
Feb 2012
#29
Iraq is likely to oppose at this point. Its Shia majority has ties to people in Iran.
Selatius
Mar 2012
#73
Ironic, because many on the right are screaming about an imminent 3rd World War at the same time....
AverageJoe90
Mar 2012
#62
It just sickens me to hear Graham and the RW-AIPAC cabal talk about what they will
nanabugg
Mar 2012
#67